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I thought there was an air of opology from Falcace fair play he didnt need to all his points valid and made in good faith.Myself and Falcace will have to admit defeat but its been fun all the same.

Lee used his frame and weight to great advantage what a talent also i liked P.C and i would say it was a close thing between them.Lee i remember aged 17 i think scored ten points in the silver plume at the abbey.17 YEAR olds going straight in and beating the likes of Mauger and Olsen in 76 who then were mega forces in the sport.P.C I didnt see him loads at hyde rd at his peak a few league meetings and b.l.r.c and i no know mike wouldnt live with him there. But MIKE at his best i would fancy mike to win more times at other tracks.Very close but lee the better rider and TALENT for me and dont forget mike won the longtrack something peter didnt do.

Great listening to everyones opinions, ive learned something myself and would say is there a right or wrong no all opinions only.The only thing i would say is Carter never got to wear he stood in speedway by just hard work and[ grit ]which is associated with kenny.Wear that places kenny in your pecking order up to the individual,i thought if anything he found riding easy.By the way i liked his speedway style which to me was a old 60s 70s riders style.My dad said this once,and looking back what a great example Ian Cartwright,and Kenny Carter.He said Ian who i liked and thought was a third heat leader at best learned the ropes at 2nd halves the shay and Crewe progressed to be a international a commonwealth finalist, 2 british finals by real hard work and dedication think he averaged over 9 once.Wheres Kenny blasted straight in bang a international within 3 years. Cartwright[again i admire for what got from his hard graft and Carter who found riding fast quite easy.

Michael lee .

i respect falcace ie] because he noes his stuff and because unlike you he dosent try to twist his way of thinking on to you.Believe me falcace wont agree with me everytime far from it.Saying that i do respect your point of view as well impartial one .But got to say Kaisers post, as [blakey would say] thats made my day that as.

Why didnt you respond to FALCACE? his post was spot on.Ask him did he think screen was 20 TIMES MORE GIFTED than carter and you did say that didnt you impartial one.Or are you going to change your mind.

Great points,i agree totally about inept facillities poor stadia when the leagues were doing well the investment was not forth coming.Im not against the series i watch and enjoy some of it but league racing i prefer personally.Answers i dont say that i no really what they are for the long term.myself maybe look into a squad situation ie] then maybe the quality Crump, holta,jonsson, ect might race the odd night hear and there and raise the level again.

I Totally agree,is there many people on hear that agree with you?i think it has nearly run its course if it is to survive and prosper it defenitely needs a revamp.Parsloes was crucified on here about the status quo but he is right.I hate it that are league speedway is aloud to suffer and been aloud to go to the dogs.This illusion that gpseries is brilliant ive never thought this and speedway hasnt proggresed as WHOLE because of it.

Its tried, the sport no farther forward backwards if anything prize money a joke,the elite league in a sorry state apart from that its all looking rosy.

I think you are on to a loser impartial one,maybe if you had picked someone else other than Carter.Like others have said Carter,in speedway terms was a novice no grounding really second halves 1 year at Newcastle.Bang a star was born, at the time wasnt really a fan but realise now how good he was today he would have a field day.Different league to the likes of Nicholls,Woffinden, ect]

Crump and Sanders Both great riders, always i think there was a tension .But they got on i think respect at the end of the day ,You can never dispute they were great Both great riders.

You called me a dick on a open forum, i am not Threatening you not the end of the world for me.I wont lose any sleep over it,maybe we will call a truce.

If you think im a dick , meet up if you have the bottle we will see if im a dick.

Think it was 1980, at smallmead the robins won 40.38 Stevie Gresham got blamed for bringing Briggo junior off i am sure it was Milan Spinka,s fault.Briggo senior wernt happy and he and Gresh had a scuffle.Me myself i wudnt want to mess with Stevie G ,that year and the year after Gresham and Holloway had a great partnership for the robins could beat anyone as a partnership.

See alot of the Adams Crump battles brilliant, thoes two had total trust in each other none of them would stick each other to race at there level must of been great.Adams to me was a world champion, brilliant rider style well awesome.Adams and Crump two awesome riders, lucky to see them ride.By the way see Phil Crump ride every week he was awesome too quiet bloke was so privileged to see him ride every week.

Ghostwalker,i havent seen much swedish racing, but is it on the same level as Poland.Are e.league is very poor i think, sometimes i am envious of the other leagues as i like league racing.

The Know,es new catchphrase i know nothing`

I dont no why i even read your response ,but as i say theres hope for everybody? well dunno about you but only a bit of banter a i can live with that.

I DO.

Totally agree, id pay money to see him to me he could be like a TYSON,MCENROE,A.HIGGINS of our sport take it up a notch raise the profile.

The young uns opinion, hes entitled to it im not on top of it its a suggestion I listen to everyones opinion.I would rather that than a BORING statement we get from you. DA.

Would of been a tussle never see him but IVOR could mix it a bit i think.

MAUGER v BRIGGS [THE GREATEST ONE Both heroes of mine briggo my favourite rider.[i think briggoes head to head races with ivan barry wins i think? BRIGGS V FUNDIN TOM OWEN V JOE OWEN [sTRANGE ONE cant remember if they met in the silver helmet? ERIK GUNDERSEN V HANS NIELSEN liked erik was never a hans fan..great post Falcace.

I think its a good idea be great to have a gp in the week wont happen thou.Sky will not want to clash with premiership and champion leagues football.Funny thing is sometimes by having it on a saturday affects the crowd i think because of so much going on.

I dont pretend to know everything,but id be pretty confident my knowledge of speedway is greater than yours.1968/69 i first went as a young one.Also there are alot of[ OLD GITS] on hear as you called us who also odviously have a great knowledge on speedway going by your posts you are not one of them.