Star Lady

Anything over four letter words and a lot of people struggle

Not sure I'd blame the referee. In my view it was down to the Lynn team (or lack of it). 6 other team members in the pits, various mechanics and hangers on and a team manager and NOT ONE of them noticed the absence of a dirt deflector Indicative of the lack of team spirit maybe, were they all simply doing their own thing. Can't seeing it happening had Rory been there, he seems to be everywhere in the pits.

Well that's me been wrong for 50 years too

I perceive it as maybe they are skint after forking out to watch speedway live. You can't prove which of us is correct so it confirms nothing

As it is at all meetings as I understand it. Therefore it follows referees either don't deem any rider, guilty of riding that is that dangerous or they are not giving the other riders the protection they want. Whichever, neither gives any rider the right to physically attack another, especially when that rider is still on his bike. Please note I'm trying to keep personalities out of this

Hope you manage it Sue. From my family's experience, admittedly a few years ago, the Millenium Stadium staff look after wheelchair users and their carers superbly.

So do we assume from that that no referee thought Nicki's riding bad enough to throw him out of the meeting? or Do they not want him thrown out cos he's box office? Just asking.

Not like you to believe what you read on the forum

Maybe they should join the Speedway Riders Assoc or even form their own association and make representations to the authorities of the various leagues and the GPs. Surely that's the adult way to do it? Whilst I agree with your last sentence, very few on this thread have made the very small effort required to sent best wishes etc for his recovery.

Off topic but it's a sad reflection of this forum, and possibly the sport as a whole that this thread has 337 posts and the thread about Ben Barker who has 3 broken vertebrae has only 25

Totally agree with you. This thread should have been about Hancock's actions. Instead it's turned into a witch hunt against Nicki P. I'm not defending Nicki by any manner of means, I agree with some of the comments about him but it is detracting from what is the original issue of the thread - was Hancock behaving correctly by attacking someone and what if anything should be his punishment. I'll repeat there is no justification for violence it solves nothing.

I agree with a lot of that which is why I believe refs should reort it to the SCB or whichever authority . They can then take a more distant view, watch any video available, take statements from other riders/officials and would see if a pattern emerges concerning certain riders. It should not be down to a single individual to issue a ban, apart from throwing a rider out of a meeting.

Absolutely spot on. Refs should exc riders,warn them and if necessary report the incident to the appropriate authority who after a defined number of incidents must issue a ban. That is the only way to rid the sport of dangerous riders.

Post of the year!!!

I have not defended Nicki's actions, in fact he blocked me on Twitter following my reaction to the Zagar incident. And yet again you have to bring the name of a much missed rider into it. I have stood at a track and watched a rider get killed in front of me, so don't try and lecture me on the dangers of the sport.

The problem is most people cannot take the personalities out of it. If it were any other two riders the reactions in the majority of cases would be completely different.

Seems Hancock has been fined 5000 kroner, the maximum allowed. That should be the end of it, Nicki exc, Hancock fined. It won't be tho will it cos it's like manna from heaven to BSI.

I don't condone any rider who is guilty of dirty riding. That's why I could never ever be a referee, its all a matter of opinion and I don't consider my opinion to be valid enough to having never ridden a speedway bike. I often agree with Nicki's exclusions however there are times I think he is excluded simply because of who he is. To clarify, Nicki was excluded in this instance and I have no problem with that.

What a nasty piece of work you are. First you wish a human being breaks his neck with all the consequences that brings not only for him but his family and friends and than you try and justify it by dragging the name of well respected, much loved and missed rider into it. I'm not going to try and debate the matter with you because you simply don't have capacity to make it a fair debate. I'll repeat what I said last night. Violence should never be condoned, all it does is create more violence and it solves nothing.

Have no argument with that, tho I'd hate to be a referee. Any news on action against Hancock for violent conduct/bringing the sport into disrepute.

Of course you can forget the names, it's called being objective. So you condone Hancock launching a violent attack on another human being?

As was Hancocks attack on Pedrsen should he be fined too?

So in your opinion is that an excuse to resort to violence? Forget both of the names involved what would you do if you were the ref? That applies to everyone not just you Trees

What did the ref do? Anyone excluded, fined? banned?

I hope no one ever says Hancock is the perfect gentleman again Nicki may have been guilty of hard/dirty riding (angle not good enough to distinguish) but no one should attack another rider in that manner and certainly not continue in the way he did. There is no excuse at all for violence, handbags yes but that was violence pure and simple.