Star Lady

In the case of Lakeside their season was virtually over in May

In the hope that someone from Sky reads this thread, tonight's meeting is between Berwick and Peterborough, neither team has any affiliation with a certain Australian who has just served a ban. It would be much appreciated if all mention of him could be kept to the last few minutes of the broadcast when they advertise next Mondays meeting. thanks in advance.

Being greedy didn't do him much good then

As Howarth has tweeted he's out of an EL spot, I think the speculation time is over. Disgraceful to dump a Brit IMHO.

As Pearson and Tatum will be wetting themselves over the return of the messiah, you won't even notice the rain

Moe the opposition to be honest. I've seen some good racing at Kirky Lane but Lynn are better travellers than Lakeside

Will probably be confirmed between 1930 and 2130 tonight Will give them something to talk about cos I doubt the racing will be brilliant

I can only apologise for not treating a post on the BSF in the same way as a dissertation# there should be a smilie there but my mobile device and BSF don't seem to communicate lol#

I respect your OPINION you seem to have a problem with people who have an opinion that differs from yours. I don't dispute there was overtaking, I don't dispute that the above incidents took place. I simply have the opinion that I was bored, especially as we were repeatedly told that Cardiff was the pinnacle of the sport. Maybe the SEC a couple df weeks ago gave me higher expectations.

, Thinking it over, that's probably why I didn't rate it as a meeting. There was nothing of note. There is rarely anything much happening in the first four heats of a GP anyway but after that you more or less knew that whoever was in red was going to win. There were no crashes (not that I wanted any), there were no incidents of any note, no dodgy refs decisions, there were no brilliant cut backs, no surges round the outside line, no bouncing or riding up the air fence. Certainly there was no atmosphere coming across on TV, even the pics showing the crowd seemed to be looking bored. The supposed hate for Nicki P didn't seem to galvanise the crowd and he was perfectly behaved (how could you be so boring Nicki ) In essence it was a very sanitised GP and IMHO quite boring. Most other Cardiff GPs have had at least one spark fairly early on, be it an exc for tapes, a bit of unfair riding, a crash when we all held out breath. Last night had none of them, Batchelors crash apart and even that seemed fairly innocuous when it happened. I do think the ref got that one wrong tho. By the time it got to heat 19, I was bored and being entertained mainly by twitter/facebook and BSF. So altho you are correct in that there was passing, I stick to my view that it was far from a classic and certainly won't be one I'll rewatch time after time. I hope you enjoy watching the repeats.

Now that was a race worthy of speedways meeting of year. Shame it took 19 attempts to get it.

Passing does not necessarily make good racing, it's often a result of slow equipment

So the biggest meeting of the year has 50% or less of decent racing.

I'm wondering where this great new track is too, for the supposed top 16 riders in the world the racing is poor.

Sorry for lack of punctuation, the excellent was because of the lack of Monsters not a comment on the racing.

Excellent 4 heats and not a Monster winner in sight. Love it

Not really that fussed who wins but I would prefer it to be one of the non Monster riders.

If you say so. I am confused as to why you constantly have to tell us that you are praised on facebook but persist in coming on here when (according to you) insults you receive annoy you. If I find a pleasant place I tend to stay in it not leave it and go somewhere I get annoyed. There again I'm a woman and much more sensible

If praise and criticism bother you so much may I politely suggest you stick to Facebook in the future, then we will all be happy.

I've just watched the match "as live". It's amazing how different it looked. The crowd on TV looked much smaller than it did last night and the racing looked much closer. Did the same for the Poole vs Lynn match i.e. saw it live then as live and didn't see that much difference, Obviously camera angles foreshorten things but I didn't realise how much I assume because the position of the cameras and the fact that Lynn is a much larger/longer arena. They even managed to make it look as if the riders all came round the track after races, trust me they didn't I have to say altho not a great fan of Pearson or to a lesser extent Tatum, I didn't think they were too OTT with the Poole love last night. Given the circumstances of losing Holder at the very last minute, the way the Poole team rallied round was remarkable and the commentators would have been remiss not to have made something of it. As for interviewing more Poole riders than Lynn, quite honestly Lambert/Rory apart they were more interesting to listen to and far more animated. Magic is a joy to listen to given English is not his first language, he always comes across so well. The one thing they didn't show was if or whether the Lynn team were as together as the Poole riders obviously were. They all said how much they helped each other out etc and talked to each other. Were the Lynn lads doing the same? I'm especially thinking were they rallying round Bjerre, not that I think it would make a difference I would still get rid Oh yeah one more good thing to say, not a sight of Chris Louis' big telly, has someone taken a hammer to it (she says with fingers and everything else crossed).

Once again I totally agree. Maybe we should form a miserable old git club Give me dogs at speedway meetings any day, well behaved, nice and quiet and will usually give you a sniff and cuddle

Totally agree there should have been some reduction or offer. I believe Peterborough did a promotion to get more kids in, not sure of the specifics but think if you dragged 10 kids along you got in free, they also must have handed air horns out to the kids judging by the din!

No reductions, no extra promotion.

I have nothing against Lynn as such. The racing was on a par with anything I've seen on Sky this season and at Poole. I agree Sunday at EOES was not great . How much better tho could Lynn be if they got the rest right. The music for instance - no big rock anthems, no music building up to each race. Boro and Poole (the only ones I've been to this year) both build the music up to the start of each race. Last night we had bland music, four bikes coming out of the pits in dribs and drabs, the line up announced, some faffing about and the tapes went up. Speedway is an entertainment for gods sake put some bloody effort into it . No wonder the crowd are silent. The fact there was no parade last night was disgraceful. With Sky there it might not have been possible to do a full on one but the riders could easily have ridden round the track at least once while the names were announced. I know all the kids (big and small ) that I've ever taken to speedway loved watching the riders come round and waving etc before the meeting, and after (which it seems didn't happen either last night). Other clubs manage to "persuade" their riders to do a lap of celebration, to acknowledge the fans but it seems at Lynn it's " not the done thing" in fact the impression given is it's banned! Rob, Buster, anyone should insist that riders at least do a full circuit after a race. IMHO they should want to do it but if not it should be in their contract,, You say the stand at EOES is where the atmosphere is but there are no more fans in there than there are in the Royal Box and home straight stand at Lynn. The difference is at Lynn the riders don't manage to get as far as the home straight after a race so give the fans no opportunity to cheer them etc. It's the little things that go towards making an evenings entertainment and they cost nothing except a bit of effort in telling the riders to do their part, building the atmosphere up to a race, do a parade for gods sake! I said to Trees pre meeting that if the peripherals are right, you don't notice the lack of good racing. You are a long term fan so you know it can be done, it always used to be done. Cyril Crane, Maury Littlechild, Martin Rogers, Waggy amongst others knew how to put on a show as did Jonathan Chapman. Seems to me that Lynn are just going thro the motions. and it can and should be so much better. If me wanting to see that makes me have a grudge against Lynn I plead guilty.

Well what did I think after a long absence - not a lot to be honest. No parade, the riders we were told were getting ready to race (that's what they do week in and week out!!!!) and they didn't do it for another 8-9 minutes. Then we were finally informed no Chris Holder, marvellous how that was kept quiet in these days of social media! Music as bland, absolutely nothing to get the crowd going it was all very bleugh Finally something good - Kevin and Edwin are truly professional, knowledeable and we got some decent interviews. Now to the racing. I didn't have a prog so forgive me if the details are not right but we had a pass in heat 2, a half decent race for 2 laps in heat 4/5, another pass about heat 8 (Porsing?), another half decent race about heat 10/11 and heat 15 which was excellent by any standards. The rest was boring follow my leader stuff. Did we get any atmosphere, did we hell it was like a bloody morgue! Mind you the majority of the riders got as far as the back straight after a race and turned straight back to the pits . The only acknowledgement any of them made to the 3/4 bends was a limp raised hand by Kerr, a sort of wave from Lambert, Milik however did make it all the way round and managed to wave/raise a hand for the majority of the bend. So if the riders cant' be arsed to acknowledge the fans it does sort of make you wonder why the fans should acknowledge the riders. I did applaud a couple of riders - Milik, Majic and Dakota North as they acknowledged us. After heat 15 Robert Lambert did a couple of laps in celebration and fully deserved the great reception he got so Lynn fans can do it. I contrast this with the Poole/Lynn match a couple of weeks ago when despite Poole smashing Lynn their fans kept up a brilliant atmosphere and their riders gave them wheelies and celebration laps. It's not just Poole either I'm gonna annoy Trees now but Peterboro manages to get their riders to do celebration laps (including Robert Lambert lol) after most races and the fans react to it, hence here is an atmosphere. I do have a question at this point. Does anyone know what is on the comprimising video that Bjerre obviously has of Rob Lyon cos apart from blackmail I cannot think of any reason Bjerre was kept in heat 14. His performance was abysmal, as it was at Poole. So did I enjoy my first visit to Saddlebow Road league match in ages. Well the company was great, the weather was glorious the entertainment was virtually non existent. I think I'll stick to the EOES. Finally Poole fully deserved the point and apart from the heroic performance from Lambert in heat 15 would deservedly have won the match.