Star Lady

Chris Harris is totally innocent in this. He obviously did what he was told to do and had he not would probably have faced disciplinary action of some sort. However SCB is correct there is NOTHING in the rules that covers a facility for his absence. That is the issue. We get post after post saying people see speedway as a joke sport and this is why. If the BSPA/SCB/ACU want or require riders like Bomber to ride in grasstrack meetings they should ensure that the situation is covered by a rule. Anything else just takes fans for fools....but they have done that for decades

Could it be that it is an ACU event and Harris accepted the booking before signing for Peterboro? Plus it's no doubt covered by the "best interests of the sport" clause

Both really. No one wins in those situations. The racing last night , final apart, was awful. I understand why the TV, organisers etc want to go ahead, not that I agree with them. It's the riders that wind me up tho. Had those conditions been at Poole say on Monday, do you honestly think Kurtz and Holder would ride? Of course they wouldn't, but the dangers are the same. Not really singling those two out, but they are involved in both meetings.

My point is if a track is dangerous it's dangerous. It doesn't matter what kind of meeting it is. If a world title meeting is rained off it will be rerun at some point exactly the same as a league meeting. I'd rather not see any meetings raced in conditions like that.

Pretty boring meeting until the final.....and then WOW. Just glad Pearson didnt have the mic

It's the hypocrisy of them I can't stand. If those conditions were in the UK they wouldn't even get changed let alone throw a leg over a bike, but it's no less dangerous because it's a major individual meeting. I have no problem with riders not wanting to ride when conditions are dangerous BUT........you know what I'm saying That was a horrible crash for Drabik.

Amazing that the Aussies are willing to ride on it really....bet they wouldn't if it was a U.K. League meeting

Racing (and I use the word loosely) is dire as is the ref

I'm sure he's not skint but he soon will be if he pays out more than he takes in.

Fair enough, if you still get nowhere I'll join you in lambasting the Lynn promotion

You won't know until you try. I've said before I know folk who have written polite letters and got refunds, but it's your choice.

No but instead of sitting at a keyboard complaining every day i'd write a letter send it by snail mail and depending on my mood maybe insert a sentence contains the words small claims court. Of course that would require a small amount of effort but might just get the result you want.

If it's that important to you, maybe you should try snailmail and add the cost of postage on to the amount you ask to be refunded.

That's a silly argument. The Poles also fought alongside us in the war but that doesn't mean we can't criticise the effect the Poles are having on UK speedway now.

I think we need to bait the thread to entice them. So here goes...... Which track is more dangerous in your opinion.

GRW I suggest you read what I post more carefully and not allow your frustration and anger to colour what you think I meam. I've been a critic of Buster for several years now, whereas you and a few others have only converted more recently. The garden isn't rosy, I didn't come close to suggesting it was. It's full of weeds and thistles. I've known Buster for many years and wish you luck making him realise anything that differs from his opinion. Having said that if he keeps the club going, and it seems to be his intention from the latest PR, I for one will be grateful to him. I certainly won't stop criticising him if I think it necessary. It hasn't all been his fault as I said before Holder and Batchelor had a fair part to play. Had they ridden with loyalty, and not just in the Poole debacle meeting but in all matches we wouldn't be having this debate? Their part in this seems to have been forgotten by some. Buster has made mistakes, he is annoying in the extreme by not respecting the fans but it's not all his fault. Incidentally I've never blown sunshine up anyone's arse and have no intention of starting now. I attended the first ever meeting at Saddlebow Road and until 3 years ago missed very few meetings at home and went to evry away meeting I could get to and afford, so I suggest my record of attendance matches yours.

I've been a rather vocal critic of Buster in the past and probably will be in the future. However I did support his stand on Holder and Batchelor and most of the rest of this seasons farce followed on from that. The double header......well we all saw what happened at Wolves last night, down to 4 riders and that certainly wasn't Buster's fault. He is who he is, and I doubt he will change at his age. So folk have two choices, stick with him and support him next season or give up all together. I gave up some time ago but if the sport does go down the one big league/regional all same level league and we have less of the prima donnas I could well be tempted back IF and I appreciate it is a big if, fans are treated with more respect and the entertainment level increases. Get rid of a few of the more stupid rules would help too. I guess what I'm trying to say is speedway has been a massive part of my life (as it has most of the rest on here) and I would hate to see it go. I'm not sure someone else taking over the complete promotion would necessarily be a good thing, the Waggy era didn't end well .Very mixed feelings at the moment Much as I disagree with Trees on some things I can see her point of view.

At this rate Lynn might get more points than Swindon

I know folk who not only got a reply but got a refund. You won't know until you try.

Why not write and ask them.

That's worse than talking at length to Rosco.....will watch my newly seeded lawn grow by candlelight from 9pm

sorry to use your post above but what's your view on the difference (if any) in the equipment used by the Poles, Poland based Aussies and the Brits? Does the ability to constantly practice on the track make that much difference. Most fans seem to think it does but it would be good to get a different perspective on it.

Never fear I'm sure they can pad out the last 30 minutes with Swindon choosing their opponents for the play offs.

Whilst I don't disagree with the views that Brits are 1) not good enough 2) not given enough opportunities I wonder what difference bikes used makes. Correct me if I'm wrong but I read that Kurtz used his Polish bikes and Jack Holder was on Chris Holder's bike (presumably Polish). Did the other Aussies also use engines that are usually used in Poland and therefore more suited to Polish tracks? I'm not trying to take away from the Aussies achievements simply interested in the differing standards of bikes used (if any). I know Lambert rides in Poland but have no idea which bikes he used. If the bikes do make that much difference how can we put all the blame the Brits who presumably don't have the advantage of Polish clubs and the bikes behind them.

At this rate it could last longer than the meeting.