Star Lady

So you think it's OK for someone who is extremely limited to where they can view speedway to pay the same price as people who can view from any vantage point? Sorry IMO that is not right. Yes there are wealthy disabled people. There are wealthy unemployed people who work for cash and still claim benefits. That is not my argument. I have worked with disabled people for many years and lived in the same household as a wheelchair user for 30 years, trust me the vast majority simply want the same facilities as able bodied people, no more no less. I appreciate that is no always possible which is why I said if the facilities for the disabled are on a par with able bodied facilities the price should be the same. As they are at many venues out of speedway. It makes no difference who owns the property, they are providing a service/entertainment if that service is less for some sections of the community than for others surely those with lesser facilities should pay less? If you think that's b*&^$$$*( fine, that's your opinion but it is not mine.

I agree there are well paid disabled folk. If the facilities for the disabled are the same as for everyone else I agree they should pay the same. I have yet to visit any track, Cardiff apart, that provides equal facilities. Lynn is the best IMO and I would never knock the efforts Buster has made. To take Lynn as an example, there is flat access to all areas, there is a dedicated disabled viewing area and there are disabled toilets. However not all disabled folk want to sit in the dedicated area, if they did there would be no space for their family and friends. That is not equal. Not everyone wants to view from the home straight/back straight wherever the disabled viewing area is and until they are able to view from anywhere in my view the facilities are not equal. The unemployed however have the same facilities as everyone else and IMO should pay the same.

I follow politics, doesn't mean I agree with anything any of them say tho and I don't agree with the concessions for unemployed as a right. If individual businesses chose to have one fine and dandy, if they don't well such is life. And before you ask yes I have been unemployed in the past as has my husband but neither of us expected or asked for concessions anywhere. Incidentally the disabled are not mentioned in your version of the government meaning, now they should get a concession.

Not to mention trying not to P himself laughing at Ermolenkos pronounciation attempts.

Yes only 4 can ride but supposing for instance between now and then, Woffy, Harris, Cook and King were injured. You are then down to the next 4 in the squad whoever you think they are. OK so we probably wouldn't get thro in that case but the same could happen to other teams as well so at least give us a fighting chance. I don't for one second think that Lambert, Garrity and Blackbird are anywhere near ready this season, my point was simply give them some experience with no risk and no pressure.

I hope some way can be found to have Lambert, Garrity and Blackbird in the pits at least for the Lynn round.Sign them in as mechanics, gofers, prog filler inners anything but get them in there to learn what the atmosphere is like, experience some of the pressure and observe how some of the top riders cope etc. Can't do them any harm at all.

So to those of us not "in the know" your information is no more or less credible than anything else posted on this thread. Don't get me wrong I'm not taking sides but with allegations this serious , both for the individual concerned whose reputation is being besmirched and for the safety of the riders in this and any other meeting, it's my belief that only provable facts should be posted.

[quote name="idanthyrsus" post="2472064" timestamp=" such that one of the riders refused to be treated by him. . That's the first I've heard of that, tho I may have missed it. Can you tell me where it was reported please.

I don't and neither I assume do you unless you are Richard Lawson or the referee.

Maybe the whole debacle could have been cleared up quickly had Richard Lawson reported his concerns to the referee and not the social media.

Not sure Krzysztof Buczkowski would agree with you. Ermolenko called him Dubrovki, Bronoski, brovski amongst others tonight, he just need Debussy and Bronski Beat and would have covered everything. Kylmakorpi was Oldkorpi and NKI was Oldneilsen. There were others but I tune it out as much as possible. If you cannot even get the riders name correct (ish) you really are in the wrong job.

Well impressed with David Rowe,just a shame he allows Ermolenko to get a word in Hopefully Eurosport will realise that the bumbling mispronouncing clown lets their whole programme down and replace him very speedily. They do seem to take note of what fans say

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Not on tonight cos balls - tennis and football variety

Maybe in the interests of fairness Racers and Royals should ask Sky why they are not showing a plum EL match tonight, the height of summer when the weather should be good. I'm talking Wolves vs league leaders King's Lynn on a track that usually produces good racing. On an evening when they are no showing any other live sport. I believe there is also a week in July when they are now showing speedway when the weather should also be good. It's all very well knocking Eurosport but let's be fair they sorted the problem. Let's see if R & R can come up with an excuse for the above omission. Yes I realise this is sort of in the wrong section but my point carries over from the above thread.

To be honest, I turned the last match off cos it was carp. I've learnt to filter out the commentary now so really am no expert on his latest efforts but going back to his first couple of shows JB was refreshing and new and I thought asked question that newbies would ask. Maybe he just got cheesed off with his questions being ignored and thought "why the hell should I bother?" I really am completely flummoxed as to why JB has been replaced and the bumbling buffoon is still there

And they shake hands or share a beer afterwards. Can still remember some of the spats from the 60s & 70 s but have long forgotten the races lol

I have to agree his enthusiasm and admittance that he didn't know everything was a refreshing change. Sadly for him he was saddle with a side kick who if he knew the answer flatly ignored the question and rambled on about something else, so no-one learnt anything. Jack did at least, at the beginning anyway, get the pronunciation of names correct. Like WW I think Jack was just the kind of presenter who would appeal to newbies to the sport, they could learn along with him. For that to happen tho he needed the assistance of someone with the ability to impart knowledge - Tatum, Norris, Louis, Nicholls, Havelock (ignoring the accent ) even Rosco. Sadly Eurosport seem to have solved the wrong part of the problem.

Be more impressed if they had replaced Ermolenko.

I think we are talking about at least 2. Nicki in the GP and I guess Smolinski in the German meeting where Davey Watt was injured. Surely one is one too many. At present there doesn't seem to be any deterrent.

Rory and Hans Andersen on Twitter today and as others have sai in the SS.

Following the Nicki/Zagar incident in the GP and the accident to Davey Watt. Some riders are calling for yellow and red cards for dangerous riding, with bans resulting from that. I'm all for curbing dangerous riding but does this rely too much on referees who let's face it are less than consistent domestically let alone getting consistency world wide. I assume if a rider was banned there would be an appeal system, would this just rely on the referee or other officials or should riders also at the meeting be allowed an opinion.

Prefer Eurosport. Andy & Scott far superior to any studio combination Sky have had. Plus they show a few extras e.g. piece from Berwick qualifier. Biggest plus, their adverts advertising upcoming sports programme actually include speedway

I think we should all be far more concerned with the bacteria from the Dog Dirt Pooper Scooper being transferred to the hallowed shale of Monmore Green