Stokielee

Thanks for the answer.

Congrats to everyone involved! Does anyone know when the first spade goes in the ground?

Massive clouds of dust from the very first bend of Heat 1. Again! And they eventually come out and water the straights?!! I'm running out of words to describe that shambles!

Not wanting to hijack this thread talking about other tracks so I'll be brief. I sincerely hope Belle Vue get an excellent racing strip, a club of that stature deserve a brilliant track. Admittedly I miss-remembered Buxton being narrow but it's still an awful track. Incidentally, there's currently a debate on FB about the track being poor. As you say I forgot the Isle of Wight, Kent and also Hull. Most tracks wouldn't fit in their current stadia if they had to be 300m. That's why I think they are shoe-horned into places they don't really fit. Best of luck to Belle Vue.

It's my opinion, no more-no less, that money would keep it open. You are disagreeing with that opinion, you are entitled to do so. I don't understand why you would be so aggressive in doing that. Have you listened to the BBCWM interview?

So you are saying there isn't sufficient money within the individuals who are the BSPA to keep it open? Russell, Ford, Mole, etc. The money could be found if they wanted to. Has Phillips trod on a few too many toes and is he, therefore, being taught a lesson? Would it be the first time that has happened?

Brum could be saved if the BSPA wanted to. If Brum shuts it's because the BSPA didn't want to keep it open. What needs to be worked out are the reasons why that might be the case.

There is no passing at Leicester beyond the second bend. The track has fundamental flaws in terms of the relationship between the length, width and shape. It's big but somehow has no space! I've not been to Redcar but it's small and I'm told that the banking on the third/forth bends cannot be used effectively due to the small nature of the track. Buxton is too small, narrow, rough and not even level. Weymouth was too small and narrow. I never saw Trelawny but it was small. The same goes for Plymouth. Somerset is an interesting one. I've been once (Somerset v Stoke) and considering how people talked it up I was totally unimpressed. I remember one race, Cunningham v Staechmann. The best Staechmann could manage was to get his front wheel level with Cunningham's back wheel. There were some close races but precious little passing. I also saw a Somerset match on Sky, that was good admittedly. I would say Somerset is one of the better tracks in the country but most others are pretty poor so it's not saying much. I think it could be better still. Scunthorpe I've not seen, it's talked up like Somerset is but I think it's smaller? Wimbledon was narrow and had a poor surface I understand. Birmingham isn't particularly conducive to passing from what I've seen on the TV, I don't know the reason for that, whether it's size, shape, width, surface or a combination of all those. Also viewing is poor at the stadium, how bizarre. Have I missed any? Probably. The rules in regards to track size need changing, min length should be 300m. The minimum widths on straights and bends need to be increased. The common thread running through this is that most modern tracks have been short. Proper speedway tracks are big, wide and fast with multiple lines. The Polish and Swedish tracks I've seen on TV are far better than most British tracks, length, width and surface. I'd guess you'd disagree with most of what I say above as you think they are all "fine".

That should be the absolute priority of any new promoter/anyone building a new track. Most of them talk it up but very, very few actually manage to produce a decent track (size & shape). Time will tell on this one...

This is by far the most important thing stated on the whole 13 pages of this thread. DO NOT balls-up or compromise the size, shape, or surface of the track under ANY circumstances!

Sounds like its all gone wrong since there was a mass exodus of people from the club then.

Was Drury an official promoter of the club? If so, would he have also had his licence annulled?

The point I was trying to make is if the will was there within the EL then the Brummies could be saved. If it turns out they end up shut then it is because those who have the wherewithal to keep it open aren't sufficiently bothered if it shuts. That is a problem within itself. The reason that other promoters should keep it open is because if we're not very careful, in the near future, Poole will be riding against themselves! 2 years until Coventry are dead..? On the point of why they don't get sufficient crowds, well I've seen the racing at Perry Barr on Sky and I've come to the conclusion that the track is not particularly suited to good racing, that needs sorting too. Added to the fact that viewing isn't great within the stadium (What?!!) and it seems fairly obvious why people don't go in sufficient numbers.

If you don't buy him the fish today, he'll be dead tomorrow. Get it to the end of the season and solve any problems you can on the way.

By paying off the debts to the GRA and allowing the club to continue. As I said money is the only thing that will solve it.