spin king

Totally agree with you, and think that we all got few cross wires last night, but I think that what is more important is that at the end of the day, we all care about Shawn and Kelly and that is important.

Thanks Jim, I have seen your PM and replied, and there are no hard feelings on my part.

Sorry, but I think that you are been a bit over the top, here talk about over react. Some ask how old Shawn was and I when went to look I realise it was the mans birthday. I put the comment in wishing him a Happy Birthday, to merely point out it was his Birthday and too wish him a Happy Birthday, alright in a perfect world I should have does everyone realise that it is his birthday, sorry but I am not morbid enough to start thinking is he dead or not, and I don't think that 99.9% of people would.. Also where have I said I don't want to help the man or see the man get financial help, I have not the man has a an alcohol problem and yes he needs help, and I would be the first person to help, but simply throwing money at his problems, and that is if he stills has those problems is not the answer in fact you could kill him. I apologize if I have offended you or anyone else on this forum, that was not my intention to, and I think that we all want the same thing for Shawn to be safe and well.

Right you want to know about the whereabouts of the Moran brothers try Andy M on here, the letter was from a friend of his in the States, who knew the the Moran brothers. The letter was in response to enquiry I made about Shawn been involved in a motorcycle accident, I had heard from others who had been close to both brothers that they had problems with alcohol, and has fallen on hard times The letter more or less confirmed this. The reason that I post the letter was because there was talk about giving the brothers money, and I think the last thing you should be giving people who have an alcohol problem is money, what they need is help to get them off the alcohol, certainly not money, but at the end of the day they have to want to get off it. As for wishing Shawn a Happy Birthday, why can't I, the man was a hero of mine, and I hope that both he and Kelly are both safe and well.

I know when I looked up their dates of Birth I had to take a quick glance at the calendar, and too be honest I found it a bit spooky.

Happy Birthday Shawn.

Perhaps a collection for Shawn might not be such a good idea, I asked about Shawn after I heard that had an accident last year, this was a letter that someone had sent someone on this forum who knew both Shawn and Kelly in the States. Shooey did fall off a motorcycle, but it was nowhere near as bad as losing an arm. Indeed, he had a bottle of whiskey tucked under it when he crashed and both arm and bottle came out unscathed. It really is sad to see Kelly and Shooey living with their mother in what amounts to the projects. I'm from a council estate in Gorton and that person will always be a part of me Andy, but I've never been third in the world, won World Team Cups, been a speedway superstar, or in Shawn's case, won the 1990 World Final in all but name. The pair of them have absolutely nothing left from their respective careers. Back in the day they would ride in Poland before it became as popular as today, and would get "paid" in priceless cut glass crystal, which they would both flog for twenty quid as soon as they landed at Manchester Airport and would basically go "up the wall" as it were. They are both broke and whatever cash they come across, usually from well meaning speedway fans, goes straight in the cash register of the nearest liquor store. I don't know if you ever read VIZ Andy, but the character, 8 ACE could be either of them. It just isn't funny anymore because everyone but Kelly and Shawn can see what it is doing to them. Still saddens me to read the letter, what a terrible waste of a life, lets hope that both have straightened themselves out.

Finally, he should have had a meeting about four years ago.

Too right, the man had time for everybody young and old, and deserves to be classed as a true legend not only by the Sheffield supporters but other supporters too.

Aww thanks for that mate, I have just been sat here looking at the photo's. The Shay, now that was a racetrack, long straights with those heavily banked bends, and the crowd so close to the track, when the riders went down the back straight you felt that you could reach out and touch them, they just don't make tracks like that anymore. Sat here trying to think of a modern day rider who reminds me of Shawn, I just cannot think of one at all, no fits the bill. Okay Kelly was probably more exciting hanging off the bike, but Shawn had this wicked style that was ultra smooth, and totally a joy to watch whether he gated or not the way he passed riders sometimes he made it look so easy.

Cannot disagree with you there Sandman, I just wish that Spin KIng Junior could have seen them, I did try to bid for a video on Shawn a few years back on Ebay, so I could show him, but I was outbidded.

Once again Tigerman thanks for the memories, I think I will get the Hovis out and the best butter. :approve:

The fact that Jason Crump and Greg Hancock and many Grand Prix riders who don't ride this country now means that if we can get these riders over to Sheffield will mean a bumper crowd, looks like Sheffield in March will the place to be.

Absolute wicked news, I am please to hear that there will be a meeting to honour Darren and Sharon Boocock, I know a lot of Sheffield fans were expecting this to happen last season, but it looks like Neil will be putting on a meeting worthy of the memory of both Darren and Sharon.

Great memories. :approve:

The real home of Belle Vue a real race track, just like Halifax.

Great photo of the Miracle Worker.

Sorry if my post on Shawn appears to unsympathetic which was not I my intention, Shawn was a hero of mine, and still is. I find it a really shame that a rider of Shawn's abitlity and one that should be living at least a comfortable life. I do seem to remember a past thread that someone who had known Shawn from the past had said that Shawn's problems were centred around his drinking, and until he sort that out he could not move on with his life. I do hope that he can sort out his problems and get his life back on track, knowing that your hero is penniless is not nice.

I cannot remember but I think it was drink.

Holder said he did not want to be considered for the GP, so how can it be a sick joke, Holder did not want ride so hence he has not been chosen. Of course the inclusion of Bomber Harris is down to the fact that he is British, and the British GP is one of top Grand Prix's, it is the same reason why Freddie Lingren is in to make up the Swedish numbers. I agree at the moment Tai is not ready, give him two years and I think he will, putting him in now would do him no good, prove of happens when you putting riders in before they are ready look Antoninio Lindback.

I believe that both the Moran brothers have fallen on hard times, but I seem to remember that Shawn especially has.

Christmas Shopping.

I think that Jason Crump changing his riding schedule will see him fresh up a bit, and I can see him back to his best. I have to say that young Holder seems to have head firmly stuck on his shoulders, I also think that he would be a great addition to the Grand Prix, but if the lad does not feel ready to take on the challenge then a good move to wait another year.

Surprised with the Bomber inclusion, but the comittee are obviously looking at the British Grand Prix, the only two Grand Prix's that Bomber has shown any really form. To be honest I don't know why everybody is getting so excited about, it will be the same next season Crump and Pedersen chasing the winners medal, with the rest chasing third. Jason Crump and Nicki Pedersen are head and shoulders above the rest.

That is a cracking name, did they have a Stan Skegness riding for them as well.