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Not sure why people are on Frickes case here. He is averaging more in the uk than on Poland, and comfortably more than in Sweden. Even adjusting for the varying degrees of strength of the leagues, his British performances match those on Sweden and would be within half a point of those in Poland. People are forgetting his uk average last year was inflated by riding at 2nd string for a large chunk of the season.

Do U have a gut feel (or stats) on how many are injury facilities and how many due to "other absences." The latter category I would assume could be army least 90% eliminated by better fixture planning

Reminiscent of a certain Batch ef...

Yes, but you are a speedway fan. To get a "casual" to come along is suggest a full house is at least as important, by making it look like the place to be. Obviously the ideal is both!

Yeah but you forgot that heat 15 doesn't count towards averages.....Fwiw I would be OK with a 43-45 point limit if you removed the ability to make like for like changes during the season. I remember the days of 49 and 51 point limits (Inc bp) but of course the issue was that some teams built right to the limit, and others 10-15 points under it.

1969 was when the "classic" BL format came in, so at latest it was 69 when 2 reserves started People have whinged and whinged on here about too many guests, yet when the bspa do something about it people still whinge... fwiw I would allow choice of facility for hl only and no facility 4-7 other than replaced by a number 8 or NL rider, but the bspa rule this season actually makes sense imo

And the NZ population....

Don't agree with this at all. Every team on average was going to drop by around 18%;on the starting average. The BSPA have made an utter Ness of averages over the last 4 seasons, but having riders on averages over 12 is not one of them. They could have reduced those averages by 16% and made the limit 42 and it would in effect have been no different.

somewhat hypocritical don't you think? When I pointed out on the "best Americans in the BL" thread that TWK had named 3 out of 5 riders who had barely ridden BL and he suggested that was being pedantic you were happy to take that as am opportunity to have a dig at meyet here you are...

only if it's a small stamp or you have big handwriting!

Can't be true because Starman said it was a bad idea to have the NSS in Manchester as it rains all the time, and as we all know Starman is never ever wrong.

On current season form, is he significantly better round KL than Richie Worrall?

I think those line ups illustrate why the idea won't work. The disparity between top and middle, let alone lower, riders increases so you've I'll see much more strung out racing. Crowds would halve I reckon. Plus no way you will get riders like holder and Doyle signing up to do 42 meetings a season in Britain.

next someone should ask if heat 15 counts towards the averages...

alternative list: 1. Mason Wear 2. Barry Butterworth 3. Hans kneesandbumpsadaisy 4. Hans Ulandgretal 5. Mike Bast

Drabik Prez Vaculik Ok so my five is: Plechanov Dudek Sckaziel G Laguta Vaculik Didn't Christian ride for Birmingham?Can't think of any decent yanks who didn't ride in Britain?

Greg Laguta? Patryk Dudek Plechanov Listed in reverse order

But he has been consistently one of the top 10 riders in the world, arguably until last season. I think he certainly deserves inclusion ahead of a number of riders listed here.

Double upping per Se is not the issue, it's the horrible scheduling. Why not say EL is two and a half nights per month (non GP Friday's being the half) and PL/NL the other 4.5 nights. Higher league always takes precedence except in cases of re scheduled fixtures, or a rider transferring clubs mid season. And get someone with a brain to plan the fixtures to minimise clashes. That should mean only facilities are needed for injuries . Restrict facility to the three hl, 4-7 can be covered by a designated number 8 (must have lower average than rider replacing) or a NL rider.

iThough what wouldn't make sense if that was the case was taking all 4 of his rides. Presumably he could have ridden one only, and then been replaced by reserves? And that would have meant ending with a higher average than he now has? 6.36 on latest green sheets? Not sure it changes materially. It was at 6.36 before the meeting, which is less than he had been averaging before the meeting this season. Don't have stats to hand but when the next averages come out I think it will be within about 0.1 of that.

how could anyone be unfit for work one day, and then turn up for work the next?Would never happen outside speedway would it..

Out of interest, what is your issue with Lambert? Clearly the day after the Lynn meeting he was racing while far from fully fit. Would you have been happier if he had raced for Lynn and scored 2 or 3 points, rather than being able to use a facility?

Fully agree, Janniro should be ranked number 1. Though What amazes me more is that no one had Jason Bunyan ahead of mauger Moore and Briggs on the Nz thread. Tbh in the 70s you only had Autrey and in the late 70s Penhall and Schwartz racing in Europe of any note. And as I recall Autrey picked up a ban for not competing at least one year. The likes of Siggy Morans Preston Cook King Ermolenko etc only really emerged in the 80s (for the pedants, yes Kelly impressed in 79)

Hans Ulandgretal

Not sure. Reckon the same people whinging would complain if he rode and scored badly, saying he shouldn't have ridden half fit, guest would have been better etc.