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though to confuse things, I believe BFM once went by KKS as a piss take of the original KKS account! KKS is JCF, FKA Batchfan/DakotaNorthracing/LiamGalagherfan/Avril Lavigne Fan etc.ect.etc.

So despite the rules clearly stating that a side must have 2 riders whovwere elehible to have ridden NL, the chairman of the BSPA tried to name one with only 1 plus an additional 1 as a squad member who would cover in case of injury? Seriously? That is even worse - not sure you can call it anything other than an attempt to cheat!?!

Wasn't it established that he only has one account, albeit a couple of name changes, when his real identity got posted on here?

If assume though that all those venues are considerably cheaper than a London venue, and most would be expecting far smaller crowds. And of course a rain off at other venues would screw the promoter not BSI

No guarantee of a larger crowdMuch more expensive stadium hire Risk of postponement due to weather No government funding, unlike Wales. Can't think of any reason why BSI don't take the chance...

So if he was genuinely injured, why has he been sacked? Or are we saying the doctors lied in saying he was unfit? Are they club doctors or independent?

"Eat rubbish"?!? Good to see Darcy hasn't become any more articulate 😅

Understand that those VISA would nor grant him access to the UK. But if he is not intending to work in the UK I didn't think an Aussie would need a VISA to enter? Yeah, I can't understand why people constantly say this. Even if it were true, how hard do they think it would be to get a VISA for those countries?

Why the clown face? The NSS has more than enough capacity for any domestic speedway meeting. With temp seating enough to host the SWC.So the only thing it's not big enough to host is a GP, though if it did it would still have one of the highest GP attendances outside of Poland and Cardiff. But surely it would have been madness to build a 40k seater on the basis of possibly getting a GP and filling it for one meeting, but having a 95% empty stadium for regular meetings? So perhaps you can clarify who the clown is?

Surely Holder would have permanent residence by now? Or worst case get a visa for Poland/Sweden and base himself there, and travel back to the uk on a regular basis to see his son? Anyway, the important question is will you be wearing your Holder shirt today?

But the question I was responding to wasn't why didn't all riders refuse to race. It was would holder have done the same in Poland. And the reason why not is money, and the fact is that the more money you are paid comparatively the more risk you are likely to be willing to take.

So by firing Batch, are KL admitting they cheated by using IRR for a rider who was not injured? Surely there should be some kind of punishment for that ?

No not allowed injury replacements. Unless in the "best interests of speedway"...

No. But you take into account the money you are paid vs the risk. People who take security jobs in conflict zones wouldn't do it for the pay they'd get doing a supermarket security job.

One trick pony who has two world championships? I don't think Tai has any problems getting sponsors. Which domestic meetings to Lewis Hsmilton compete in? Or which GP has Tai pulled out of? Is this the Lewis Hamilton who I believe is not a British tax resident?

Why not tell the riders on the Friday then? If nothing else it would have dented their egos that they were unwanted.But to not tell them til the Monday seems unnecessarily vindictive. Correct. Was it a mistake that no one mentioned KK? Lindgren is hardly on his twilight years at 31. I'd imagine the likes of Kurtz and Morris could potentially push for a place as well. Hopefully Bewley in a few seasons also

Probably first name on your list for 2018 along with Newman on a 3.5. Shame Matt stuffed up with releasing KK or you could have had those 3 plus Shanes as your first four signings for next year with enough points left over for J Holder Kurtz and Andersen, or some other combination of HL.

There gave been countless examples over the years of riders refusing to ride. I recall at Hyde Rd on the 80s alone Ole Olsen refusing to take his last ride (dispute over an aces riders tyre iirc), Bo Peterson and Bobby Schwartz both walking out half way through a meeting due to conditions, and the entire reading team walking out with 3 heats to go. I'm certain none of them were suspended or fired. Here I guess the difference is they were home riders. BUT if I didn't feel safe at work (and I appreciate in my field the worst that's likely to happen is to be hit by an out of control pivot table) I think I would make a stand to. Batch has always been reluctant to ride in sub optimal conditions, but has been KL best performer this season. Holder seems - imo understandably in light of his injuries and Darcys accident - to also be reticent to ride when the track is dicey. But he's been loyal to British speedway over a number of years, and just the previous night had turned on arguably his best performance of the season. Appreciate others will have differing views but imo this is a massive over reaction, and also surely kills KLs play off hopes and will surely impact their crowds as well for the rest of the season.

Tbf the rule is quite clear in this instance. It's just the 2nd time in a handful of days that stevebrum has quoted a rule to prove his point, but totally misinterpreted the rule.

lIrrelevant now but I'm intrigued as to how you interpret that rule as stating that a rider released during a season cannot be resigned by the same team later in the season? Which section do u think indicates that, as I can only see mention of a rider ending the season and not being part of the initial declaration for the new season?

I'd say it's a valid rule brought in to prevent cheating like we saw last year when a replacement was brought in due to a "season ending" injury which turned out to be "season ending" only in the UK. Also don't see how the rule punishes swindon. Instead of finding a permanent replacement with the points available they can choose the best guest by track. Agree they are weakened by the injury.

Why would the bspa be expected to fund this? Surely this would fall more under the remit of a national governing body? Do you have a link to the development policy forcwomen drivers for say banger racing? Out of interest, how many teams do you think a women's development league would contain? And how much do you think each rider would need to pay to race to cover the track hirage etc?

Neal Watson on another thread confirmed no injury replacements after deadline. So presume it would need to be guest coverage in case of injury to a reserve.

So Batch has along with Huvkenbeck been KLs best performer this year, improved hi starting average which only a minority of riders in the league have achieved, and Lynn fans want him ditched 😂😂😂

Those stats would indicate Tungate improving his average by a significantly higher percentage than woffy? And from memory Woffya average would have been inflated by riding in the 2nd string position in last year's format, albeit this would likely be offset by the fact he was up against only the top rival teams. But the stats are clear, Tungate was on a bargain average compared to Tai. And that's fair enough. But if this was Poole imagine the outcry about the lack of transparency.Not a dig at you, or wolves, but a dig at the inability of the sports governing body to do anything competently.