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Surely it would be a part time role? 1k from each club should surely be sufficient?

Watched this last night, thought it was a poor meeting tbh with only the close score line keeping the interest. Not sure there was a pass from heats 3-10? Last 3 heats were pretty decent.

unlike Britain, where riders always get paid ontime...

ten years ago noo-one would have said he was the future of the GPS, but he has won three world titles since then...fact is that in 2018 id expect him to perform as well or better than any of the other wildcard candidates.

ok , that I think could be made to work. If a promoter pays for an Aussie to come over, simply say that those costs are owed by the rider to the club, however if the rider rides in the UK for say 5 seasons the loan will be wiped out. The rider would also not be liable to pay if he is not offered a contract, however would be liable to pay if he breached within that 5 year period the terms of his contract, which would include giving priority of a UK fixture over any foreign contract. Year by year the contract could include a clause in which the rider committed to five priority to his British club. Signing such a contract would be a pre requisite for the BSPA supporting the riders VISA application. The reality though I imagine is that if the rider did get a Polish club making an offer, that the rider would be likely to take that as the financial benefit would outweigh having to pay back any bond.

There are two issues. Firstly more riders miss meetings due to doubling up than riding for overseas clubs. Secondly is diluting the strength of our league even more really the solution? Do we want a league where the likes of Bewley and Lambert cannot race if they want to fulfil their potential?

So if Sweden and Poland compromise by running on Tuesdayand Sunday respectively you'd be ok with pl clubs compromising u running only two nights? If you ran Monday and Wednesday that would be a change only for Poole Somerset and Leicester. All those sides have been able to ride at home on Monday for televised fixtures. If Leicester or Somerset were to say it wasn't financially viable Surely two other clubs could step up for whom those nights are not an issue. And not changing race nights could put clubs out of business. Personally I would make PL two nights and give the CL the other 5. So clubs would all have the option to run. I'd also say landlords in some cases will need the revenue from speedway as much as speedway needs the stadium.

This season alone sedgeman tun gate holder and Batchelor. Which is fine but not if that meant they couldn't ride overseas for 6 years

Well possibly his Polish club might not let him race in the UK. That would be one possible reason. I'd say if you want to lock riders into a contract for 6 years there would also need to be a commitment to give them a job and pay them for 6 years. Otherwise I can't see how the contract would be legal?

I would let you but I'm saving that ten for when the draw comes out on Friday 😉

Holder on a 7 will have no shortage of offers from the uk next year. Given Aces will likely need to let someone go in order to fit under the limit, maybe Holder in for Bjerre? Be no cause for whinging about the home track and I'd expect holder to emulate bjerres scoring on a 2 point lower average.

If Greg had retired when a lot of people may have though he should he could well have ended a single world champion. Nothing to suggest he couldn't potentially add another next season.

But the question was who gets priority for a re arranged fixture, the club who normally get priority or the original fixture?

Much as it would be nice to blame Poole for everything, surely the early deadline is a response to wolves bringing in Tai last year? And it is that deadline which has impacted the two Aussies You can however rightfully blame Poole for the removal of the post deadline injury replacement.

Grass is green

You can't say that. Holder is getting plenty of bcriticism for tweeting that Buster f&cked the track

The reason blue chip companies aren't interested is the overall popularity of the sport, the perception of it and the demographic of the average speedway fan. It's nothing to do with riders the companies are unaware of making comments on Twitter. That's not what he said. He said "We", which I would take to be KL. Who were doing well earlier in the season and had just thrashed Poole the previous night. Alternatively you could take "we" to mean Batch and Holder which would be a stretch, but Batch at least had a good season.Not defending Holder, but at least don't lie about what he tweeted.

What have Morris or Doyle done wrong? Who are the dozens of Aussies you talk of. Sure Doyle whinges a bit, but he's the best rider in the world, he's still racing in the uk and plenty of previous world champs have whinged when they were unhappy about things (mauger, Collins, crump spring to mind)Speedway riders hardly sign a comparable contract to footballers, given that they are paid no salary and the club can terminate it at any time. If signing a contract guaranteed riders money for the duration you may have a point but it's essentially a zero hour contract.

Doyle 20 more Woffy 20 more Emil 40 more Lindgren 20 more Pawlicki 40 more Lind back 10 more Vaculik 20 more Dudes 20 more Holder 10 less

Pertinent and insightful as always Starry...

I've never heard anyone say the super rugby scoring system of 4 for a win, 2 for a draw, one for losing by 7 or less points and one for scoring 3 or more triea us ridiculous or too hard to explain to casual fans. Or is it just that kiwis and,hard though it may be to believe, Aussies are smarter than British sports fans?

Why is that ridiculous? How us it any different to point systems used in rugby or cricket for example? The people you know can't be too bright if they find that system too confusing - either that or someone is not very good at explaining it!

I agree. This could Be mitigated having 2 fixed nights for PL (CL could run the other 5 nights) . Job done. Then plan fixtures better (eg font schedule a meeting featuring GP riders on a GP Saturday. Don't schedule a meeting featuring fricke ot lambert to clash with world u21 champs. Don't schedule a meeting featuring too Danes to clash with the Dsnish final). Common sense per the above would I'm sure remove 90% of non injury related unavailability. And I don't think fans have an issue with facility for a genuinely injured rider.

The issue by all accounts is not listening to those who understood what as needed to make a good track. It's not rocket science - don't make the straights too long or the turns too sharp and make sure there is enough width? Model it on a track that has a similar size to work with that produces good racing.

And I font disagree with that. But let's not get rid of riders like Morris or Lindgren or Bjerre just because they may miss the odd meeting.I'd start by restricting doubling up to Brits, planning fixtures properly, restrict the top flight to two race nights per week, a minimum number of Brits per team. Attach something like a 5 as the minimum average for a foreign rider for team building. That would be a starting point. I'd also be interested to see the stats for riders missing due to doubling up vs those riding overseas. And how many of those overseas fixture clashes could have been avoided due to sensible fixture planning. Or just a modicum of competence (refer Morris and the farce of the fours)