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really? the tac sub rule was in effect back in the 70s, in a form which gave a much greater advantage to the trailing side. so u r saying long standing supporters stopped following 40 years ago? or that they have since left the sport because the "new" tac sub rule doesn't give enough advantage to the losing team? keep up scb , all the teams had at least three top class heat leaders, just look at how many riders averaged over 8 points per meeting...

not really true, the side of 83 is the only which comes close to that, id agree they had six to claim Jan o was a seventh is probably pushing it, yes he averaged over 7 but spent the whole black season at reserve. still arguably the best bl team of all time? Apart from that the heathens sides were generally top heavy with very weak reserves (Reid, verner , barrett , s Collins etc) but this did allow them to have four genuine heat leaders (Andersen grahame Collins plus penhall/king/pedersen ). don't disagree with the point u are making though, although there were some pretty awful bl sides too in that era ( swindon of 82/83, eastborne 83 Halifax when kc was injured, exeter of 84 spring to mind)

Kk 20 more lindgren 20 more mjj 20 more gollob 30 more

Emil holder nki gollob

Emil 18826 holder 15k pedersen 15k nki 15k ugly ducking lindgren

Stenclund and nillson in 83 and 85 stand out ss the weakest champions for me. an era in which Jan Anderson was the only world class swede, the great ofvthe 70s retired or well past their peak, and nilsen and Jonsson yet to emerge as world class.

It cost over 20 quid to go to osdsal for the world final in 1985! 29 quid is about the same as i paid to go to the nz gp this year and i think its great value

Emil 10k holder 10k gollob 10k zagar 6676 patent gollob nki zagar

zagar 20 more vaculik 20 more zmarzlik 20 more tai 20 less kk 20 more nki 20 more

tai zmarzlik hampel kk

mod - perfectly understood. that is why i was asking if anyone could advise me of PAY streams that could accessed from my location. otherwise my only option is to not watch, or to watch freestreams (i did not request link for free streams). certainly do not want to in any way jeopordise your site.

anyone know of any sites where i can pay to watch elite league speedway from new Zealand ? or in fact the gps or wtc? or is my only option free streams which are potentially breaching ownership rights? Mod Note: BSF stance is very clear - we do NOT allow 'free stream' links to be posted. Unlikely as it is, it could possibly land BSF's owner in trouble and that is not a risk it is fair to take. Thanks

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GROUP 1 = Tai Woffinden (25) GROUP 2 = Chris Holder (25 GROUP 3 = Greg Hancock (25) GROUP 4 = Antonio Lindback (30), GROUP 5 = Krzysztof Kasprzak (25), THE FINAL 4 Emil Sayfutdinov 7 Tai Woffinden 8 Chris Holder 12 Greg Hancock

woffinden 20 more jonsson 20 less lindgren 20 less dryml 20 less

British GP Odds Tai Woffinden 7/2 1500 Emil Sayfutdinov 4/1 1500 Chris Holder 13/2 1500 Greg Hancock 16/1 965 . British Roast Beef Tai Woffinden 5/6 Full of Eastern Promise Emil Sayfurdinov 5/6 Poiish Power Tomasz Gollob 2/1 Dane Pack Nicki Pedersen 5/6 Former British Colonies Chris Holder 5/6 Abba Gold Andreas Jonsson 2/1 Former Pirates Krzysztof Kasprzak 5/6 Czech Mate Martin Vaculik 5/6

both to qualify i reckon

sorry auto correct on my phone. hamper is hampel follow is gollob apologies for confusion!

hamper 1100 follow 1165 hancock 1100 holder 1100 emil - no

dryml 100 less franc 100 less

gollob holder hampel hancock

Emil Freddie tai jonsson

255 Emil 200 holder 200 tai 200 Freddie many thanks

Emil 20 more li.dgren 20 more Johnson 20 more

have only seen a bit of him on YouTube, how highly is he rated as a talent? is he at a darcy ward/mike lee level, a tai woffenden level or ...? when is a realistic timeline for gps? any allegiances to any particular el side?