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Yes. So Henry s statement that the issue with holding the meeting on Sunday was entirely due to Berwick, and nothing to do with the Polish clubs was correct, and not garbage as some were saying.

Really? So berwick have no issues running a meeting on a sunday?

And the award for most ironic post of the year goes to...

Hsmpel Holder Freddie Aj Bonus: dk

Without being negative,, is that really "concrete news." While I guess it is positive news, the fact that it still doesn't have planning permission seems to indicate someway to go before a usable stadium - 2016 at the earliest?

Mp - you will be delighted that team by team averages are provided in this week's star. And they have used a love ly green font for the fast track riders.

For any brit, other than the chsp defending the title, to win this year, they will need to beat the reigning world champion to do so - so I think its fair to say it still means something. You are right though haza, in the 70s if the world finsl was at wembley the top four would typically go direct ftom the british final to the world final. The same applied to swedes and poles in their years ss final host (though I think the poles may have picked their riders to be seeded).

Sky didn't bring in double points, the promoters did to save money.The play offs are the most financially successful part of the el season, can you see any rational independent body getting rid of them? Or the promoters agreeing if they tried to? I reckon the standard of racing in gps is generally better than the old world finals. How many world finals had racing as good as the first two gps this season? There have always been good and bad meetings, even at hyde rd where I watched most of my speedway in the uk. The main issue in the uk imho is that presentation of meetings has barely evolved in the last 30 years. People have more than ever limited time and a vast array of entertainment options - a league meeting needs to be condensed into an hour and a half of entertainment, 15-20 mins of which will be the racing itself.

Yes agreed thanks. Id been calculating the difference from the low end of the rsnge for my under performers (e.g. I had hsmpel -400 bejng 8 less than 10). Understood thanks.

Racers can u check my figures. I think I should have an extra 250 quid.

Surely hampel ranks behind gollob as second best pole of all time?

Tbf, plech was one of the msin reasons I put "maybe."I only saw him live twice, when he was well past his best, once at the 83 world finsl and the other a league match at htde rd in the early 80s and he was poor on both occasions. I know he was genuine wotld class in tge 70s but havent seen enough footage ti know whether he was a racer in the gollob mould or a gater like hampel

Youtube has tons of meetings. The first two gps this season were excellent and msybe a decent place to start.

Or email the file to your self, download it on your phone, and carry it wherever you go...

Surely its easy enough to copy and paste into excel and then sort as u like? I agree it is desirable for the star to list them, but if you were aware you could get the stats elsewhere , im not sure its a big issue.

Great news! Live or delayed?

Brilliant thanks henry w

Tbf the issue is that the stats dont seem to be readily available on the Internet either.

Mp - if youre going to denigrste scbs site, why dont you compile the stats and add them to your rscecard site to really keep the visitor numbers ticking over. Use red font and present thrm in s truly innovative manner.

Im not sure there is a site that provides those though henry.Scb's excellent speedway stats site does, but they can be a couple of weeks out of date. The star online version doesn't have them either. Dont buy print football mags, but top goalscorer stats are readily available online. Ditto full lists of goalscorers by club. Stats are pretty integral to speedway, so as cricinfo has comprehensive stats, youd hope the star would do tge same, in the somewhat bewildering absence of them on "official" sites.

I think you could have made your point in two sentences. But I agree, I would like to see the "real" 2014 averages also (both with and without bp). Would be interesting to compare the averages of hl to second strings, and compare those figures to starting averages.

Pedersen 50 more Hampel 50 more Kk 50 more Zagar 50 more

Hancock Kk Hampel Pedersen

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