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Agreed. So the issue really isnt that the rights weren't the fims to sell, but how they distribute (or fail to distribute) those funds.

Wasnt the issue last year that the russian federation wouldnt pay ANYTHING - not eve n travel expenses?Real shame that what should be one of the most talented and exciting teams fielding such a weakened side.

Yes. If I was leading the world title race I'd definitely decide to retire half way through the season.I think you csn probably find 14 other people who would agree that now is a good time for greg to retire...

Im pretty certain the old tactical sub ride was officially sanctioned, and that is more of a "fiddle" than the double point rule? Darcy ward? Tai? Emil? Dirty nicki? Lots of sports have points for losing by ccertain margins - cricket and rugby comps spring to mind. Speedways point system that is hardly complex is it?I agree with your comment on world cup/ gps being a product, and that is what the el needs to aspire to being. A1: 80sA2: 31-40

Just to clarify: you would rather watch speedway at Leicester than brum because of the stadium. But you wouldn't pay an extra ten quid to watch the worlds best riders, riding eight extra heats, in a world class stadium and with racing likely to be better than you would see at bp? (appreciate there is extra travel cost getting to cardiff) I explained in my post how I came to my odds. You hadn't answered the previous questions about how u came up with your figures, and as scb had pointed out your methodology is "pure rubbish" as it is not one a bookmaker would use. This I do agree with. I found it so frustrating that you had the likes of tai and darcy chasing riders, having much better speed, but as soon as they went off the line to try to pass they went backwards. You know something is wrong when you are willing someone like ward to just consolidate rather thsn try to pass.

Yeah, you never hsd riders seeded on basis of nationality in the old days...And never any "favours" in the qualifying rounds either. .. Would you say world cup football rights belong to fifa or the english fa? Dont have to imagine at all. Throughout the 80s no continentsl european (except egon) was in the top 30 riders in the world, yet 5 spots were given up every world final to them...Whereas now at most a couple of places are granted on ground s of nationality

Can u let me know who the winners of the next couple of gps so I can put some money on .Seriously, I'd agree standings would be useful, but it's not like that info is hard to find online if u want it

If he had eight rides maybe. With seven rides its approx 16000-1 on a rider doing it, if you take the simplistic assumption that a rider has a one in four chance of winning a heat.

Where would u hold the british gp then? Nothing wrong with western springs this year. Think it comes down to individual track prep rather than a case of all temp tracks being bad. Agree that this is quite poor though

Ward 20 more Kk 20 less

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In a thread about Tai who did you think he was referring to - Barry Manilow?

Yep.If nicki had ridden in the 70s he would be lauded as a "character", and the members slagging him off here would be laughing abiut the time he knocked "x" off. And moaning about the lack of character s in modern speedway. He is the modern equivalent (on track) of kenny carter, but with three wirld titles and seemingly a nice bloke off the track.

My favourite rider of all time. 60! Hard to believe its over 30 years since he spearheaded the aces title winning side of 82. I remember I used to send him birthday and Christmas cards

Apparently only going to be filmed on a mobile though so coverage may not be as good as on eurosport...

Tbh if emil wants bsck in next year he will get a wild card, no need (imho) to give him a wild card to the challenge

I agree. But your statement was "Fim can't start..." which indicates that you thought this was something new, which it isnt as fsp and myself have pointed out.

What do you mean "start"? Fim have had seeding in world championship qualifiers for 60+ years!

Does anyone know what channel quest is on in new zealand?

Disapointing. Are you sure though, niamh thought it would be the sane as euro sport?Do you think if everyone emails them they will run to a proper camera? Even two?

What sort of coverage do quest provide? I hope its as good as eurosports. Will they have as many cameras as sky used to. I hope its not like bet365 with just one camera. And also the commentators know what they are talking about, I don't imagine they have many people at quest with much speedway experience.

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I reckon there is far less gardening now than the 70s and 80s and tge whole start ing procesd is much cleaner and fairer.

Id assume the contract gives them the rights to show it, it doesn't compel them to show it.

Why knock hans? Still one of the best riders in that field. Why shouldn't he express his thoughts?