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Gregorym - I agree there is a "mysterious work of fiction" in your post

You'd imagine so, though it appears kk is pretty much universally disliked. Had they met earlier in the meeting?

I reckon that's pretty funny tbf. And kk is the one waiting at the gate to have a confrontation.Though looks like tai gives him a little shale spray after the race, similar to the auty incident that went wrong a few weeks back.

I left the UK early in 87, so missed his visit. Do have the programme though, I think the aces only home loss that season. Aces seemed to have such a strong side that season I thought theyd be champs, but blackbird evidently had a huge drop in form, Andy Smith not back to his best after his injuries from the previous season, and the start of Mort's decline.

Scb beat me to it!

What they need to do is apply a weighting factor to averages, something like 75% for meetings as a second string and 50% for reserves. Not a fan of "grading", the issue is always going to be with riders on the edge of grading ranges.

I only started going in 81 when pc was past his peak. Reckon I only saw him beat kc once at the Shay and once at Hyde rd, and dont think I missed an aces/dukes clash involving them from 81 on.Mort must have had a 50/50 record against kc at Hyde rd, but don't think I ever saw him beat him at the Shay (or odsal).

Would love to see the following in a meeting at Hyde rd: Craven fundin Moore Briggs mauger Olsen Collins Carter gundersen Morton Nielsen j crump t Rick ward Emil and one of gollob/penhall/Parker. Mauger Briggs and Olsen to be favourites narrowly ahead of craven Collins and Carter? Would be interested to know who u ranked best around Hyde rd post mauger gc?

Kl vastly strengthened, but still think they will do well to pick up a point. Apart from perhaps at reserve, think Swindon still stronger man for man in each position around Swindon

He's been averaging 6 as a hl. He therefore doesn't need to improve to score 8 as a second string.Agree he's not in great form, but still one of the top 25-30 riders in the world this year.

Lindgren? Bjerre? Cook? Did someone really suggest thorssel as a better option than lindgren?

Surely if you re declared with a 6.5 rider, they could have ridden one meeting then witheld their services and u could have cherry picked guests of a higher level for 28 days? Or kept the 6.5 rider who would likely be better than a cherry picked 4.5 rider on most tracks?

And mike Lee surely?

I can understand though excluding both if they fall independently and roughly simultaneously in unrelated incidents. But when both are starting infringements you would think the two events are not independent and therefore only the first offender should be excluded Probably needs an update to the rule book to make it clear how such incidents should be treated, as it seems refs may just be making up their own interpretations

You would logically think so - the equivalent of a "double play" being impossible in cricket because the ball is dead once someone is "out"But as scb points out the exact same thing happened a few weeks ago

But its a myth that good racing leads to bigger crowds. Or do the likes of Somerset and Peterborough get bigger crowds than poole? I would suggest that star riders, a successful team and good marketing contribute more to attendances than the standard of racing.The key for me is that meetings should be completed in 90 minutes and there should be entertainment throughout that period

Aces need to win at wolves, possibly a four point win needed. Hopefully that will be enough, though the point Swindon got last night could prove crucial.

Could cook not have taken his 3rd ride in ht 15? And is it correct that a tapes exclusion doesn't count as a ride?

A lot of money I agree. But how much of that is "incremental" gp spend? Someone like Emil is already spending on world class bikes, has a full time agent and presumably mechanic. Surely the cost of doing 8 extra meetings can't be more than say 40k (if u assume of the 300k maybe 50% fixed 50% variable, assume 50 mtgs a season would be an "incremental" cost of 3k per meeting, which even if you double it would mean 50k extra to do GPS)

And tbh team riding in the overseas final run off as well

If Swindon had used him as a dodgy guest we'd be right to complain. But if this is a re declaration I don't see how anyone could have an issue?

How different that era could have been if England hadn't prematurely lost Lee and Carter and the yanks not lost penhall and sigalos.

Really need to send the robins away pointless. Aces by 7

He is probably my favourite rider, but tai is a notch ahead.The euros don't pay better than the gp, and surely red bulls sponsorship would increase if he were world champ. Very sad that he is being advised against or coerced not to enter the series

I think the European champ may be being less than honest, unless his clubs are failing to pay him again... The bikes he is using in the euros seem quick enough to me to compete in the GPS..