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It's like gonorrhea, but less intelligent...

Because they are not smart enough.. such a system should have been in place from day (for all riders not justcreserves) of tye new heat format. SCB for example worked out a weighting system to do this. Anyone with a brain and rudimentary maths understanding could do it, sadly through bspa appear mot to have anyone who meet that criteria.

Surely it's not the riders role to interpret the rule book? If they have had it incorrectly explained then their argument is with the club who incorrectly explained it The rule as per the rulebook is clear cut.

The Danes have always had issues like this,I remember in 86 when they gave the wildcard from the Danish final to Sam nicolajensen, but then after pressure reversed that decision and gave it to Tommy knudsen instead.

Morans and Collins' would be favorites I'd say, ahead of Boococks Mortons and Grahames? Sure there are some other leading pairs I've omitted

Crumps surely a notch ahead of the Louis pair? Mauger,Briggs and Olsen pairs all capable of picking up third, or even 2nd if senior scored a max and junior bear the other juniors (excited Louis and Crump)

Well yes. But your statement was they kept their averagea down to remain as Draft riders. But clearly no riders were forced to move up from the Draft, regardless of how well they did in El or Pl?

Given that no Draft riders have been forced to move up, despite a number averaging more than many heat leaders, I struggle to see on what basis you would suggest this?

Tbh probably a similar success rate to when a similar scheme was tried in 86. I'd say you have to look to a ten year period to guage success, never going to get instant results when you are essentially just promoting an existing talent pool.

I'd imagine not enough to make much profit after bringing bikes back to the UK twice...

If woryna is number 8 he cannot ride for bates or sargeant!?!

Yep you are right Rob. My mistake. Point still remains for Collins and Mauger though

Peter Collins skipped the 77 British final. Riders like mauger, Olsen, Jan Anderson, per jonsson, Bruce pen hall happily skipped their national champs back in the day. Just saying. ..

Any reason given?

Not quite true. NEVER underestimate Starman

The only logical reason would be if there are penalty clauses enforceable on sub-cons if track is not ready by "x" date and therefore by officially cancelling at this stage they would be voiding such claims? Agree the whole thing could barely have been handled any worse. Absolutely gutting on so many levels.

If you need to ask, you clearly have not met starman.

He will be in the team proper when the first set of new averages get released, don't see what the issue is? Much more sensible than the garrity approach imhi.

Ah. Updates have it wrong.

The points he and buzz score riding in the wrong positions should be deducted from poole's score...

Tbh in only ever saw him ride the big tracks. Hyde Rd, where he was always competitive, the shay when he moved to Halifax, then odsal where he obviously excelled.

Far far more than this reply suggests. Believe it or not, this was one of his more lucid postings!

Evitts I think was more an underachiever than Cox. I rated him from his Birmingham days, and the start of the 86 season he was arguably one of the top half dozen riders in the world on form. It was his second ride victory that through the world title open, but 86 was really the peak of his career. I know he had injury issues, but he achieved far less than contemporaries such as Tatum and Doncaster, who he was arguably as talented as.

Pretty sure Steve meant no chance of walking without new medical advances such as the one referred to in his op.

Refer star lady's post