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Agree pc would have won in 77 but think it is far from clear cut. I believe Olsen dominated open meetings early in the season, and of course won the bloc. And of course pc may have ridden the last few gps hampered by injury. I reckon both pc and Olsen likely to have ended on 2 gps apiece, but if either were to have won more it would have been Olsen without a doubt IMHO.

Strange call to put Pedersen in ht 15 instead of buzz? Surely would have made more sense for Pedersen to take ellis' last ride and have buzz in 15? And why on earth did bellego have rides?

That makes no sense at all. Bees fans are hoping he is replaced with a higher averaged rider not a lower averaged one.Though agree, I'm sure they would like him replaced now, but his average dropping has nothing to do with that.

Have to say as soon as I saw it was a meeting in France, and knowing it was not an u21 champ round, I wondered how people could possibly think Poole were entitled to a facility. Zero doubt that Ford knew this, given how we are constantly told he knows the rule book inside out.

Though actually Murray withdrew from representing gb in a team event to pursue individual glory. Tai withdrew from an individual event to focus on a more prestiguos individual event. Interesting comparison, clearly Murrays is the more "selfish" of the two choices.

OK but on what basis did you say he was the highest averaged brit?Pretty sure lambert has ridden most of his meetings as hl, so even if you weighted averages I would suggest cook is only 3rd.

Out of interest what are people's thoughts on Shakespeare? He of course puns on the c word in hamlet. Is he a disgrace and bad influence on British youth?

Three of the first seven heats were won off gate 4?

the Worrall twins are not u21 so cannot be reserve, how many more times must this be explained?Have to agree with those who would have king in the team, I certainly wouldn't have before last night, but he was excellent in Cardiff.

Thought that was the best racing I've seen from a Cardiff gp. The whole package is speedway as it should be. Really is proving to be an excellent go series, has top level speedway ever been this good. Good night for the brits - with the exception of harris- and the young poles. Lindback was superb. Isnt it amazing that with no one condoning/defending his various misbehaviours how we haven't ended up with 100s of pages of debate about him... Totally over the top reaction from dome on here about woffys words. Personally think him giving the finger to the podium photo worse than what he said. Not particularly smart thing to do but does it really matter in the scheme of things?

Really? In what was is he an embarrassment or laughing stock? He's a very good rider who has been a great servant of British speedway, but what he isn't is world class.Can I ask if you are in the top 30 or so in your profession in the works, and if not does that make you an embarrassment and laughingstock?

Holder at reserve doesn't strengthen Poole any. But with rolling averages changing rider's positions come the play offs I expect most sides will have either both edr at reserve or one edr and their weakest 2nd string (e.g. at bv likely to be Jacobs and r Worrall)

Who on earth could be potentially choosing lambert at 5 in the context of a discussion of team gb. I would have said Roy Hodgson but seems hes out of work. So i reckon it was Jose Mourinho he meant.

Because,strangely enough, the fact that the meeting has happened doesn't mean that the issue has gone away.Well done though, you've grasped your error a lot quicker than you did on the Jerran Hart thread.

Have to disagree. Re read the Jerran hart thread. I'm not sure that can ever be surpassed! Not even by gusters on the Mason wear thread.

Surely fricke will soon be at hl, which should flatten his average somewhat. Fully Agree he should in the 17 side

We're aces really 2nd best? Numbers 2-5scored evenly for both teams. The aces reserves simply compensated for zagar being outperformed by Lindgren. Close match with the right result.

Mads if kl dump him for schlein? Bech would be a clear improvement on woryna. Would dudek add enough to the gate to justify the cost - given he has no gps could he be tempted for the right price?

I think tonight's aces performances advanced Harris' claims for a spot, certainly ahead of Nicholls and Worrall. Tai lambert cook Harris Ellis of you were naming the side today Imo.

Is that a fact or your opinion?Zagar was reportedly on a set fee last year according to some generally reliable sources?

Kk I presume, as per the initial post. Resulted in the predictable Steve brum comments about being sacked..because there are do many better number ones queuing up to race El. ..

Personally I think an El with two set race nights ala the polish/swedish model. If clubs want more meetings, allow them to run a Pl side also minus the top riders. Would give an expanded Pl, possibly needing to drop to 6 man teams to accommodate the extra clubs. Pl could run any night of the week, but El clubs would always have priority on riders in case of a clash. Sensible fixture planning should ensure this isn't an issue.

Isn't that about 15k sterling they are sending to D'Arcy (including ckub donation).Which given average salary in Poland is about a third of the UK seems comparable, albeit from a much larger crowd. Given Torun were under no legal obligation to do anything, not sure how involving fraud squad would achieve anything?

If it ends with current standings, surely nicki p and zagar would be nailed on. Emil if interested. Leaving one spot for puk, a swede, a brit to be considered for. Possibly a pole, but suspect the ultimate will have at least 4 qualified already so likely to rule the likes of hsmpel put.

I'd say Freddie is far from guaranteed a wc for next year,especially if lindback drops out of the current top 8. Can only see one swede getting a wildcard next year and suspect it will be lindback, assuming the court case does not rule him out.