tyler42

Yes the comparison between Chelsea mens season tickets and Ladies is quite telling. The cheapest Season ticket for the Woman is £60 whereas the Mens is £750!! The most expensive for Woman is £120 for men £940. The ladies team don't even get to play at Stamford Bridge!

Yes the dreaded joker know where to be seen and as such a great nights racing and a fair result. Even though we came so close.

So Denmark led from start to finish. Aussies needed two TS and a an exclusion to get back into it, but Tatum and Louis reckon they won by the skin of there teeth

I have often thought the same. When they didn’t give Tom a ride in the last round of rides, it was very telling and shows they had no intension of using him on Saturday. It was only because Woffinden gave him his ride, that Tom got a run out and showed that he can cut the mustard. Saying that, Saturday's meeting will be a different kettle of fish. I would imagine whoever has the No4 Race jacket will find the going tough, but It is a world final so it should be tough!!

So much for Allan and Stead, It took Woffinden to give up his place for Tom to get a ride!!

Why when Morris and co get involved with these good tracks, do they constantly make a pigs ear of them? Why is the track so slick that the racing line is 1 meter from the white line?? Usually the racing is pretty good from this track. Just like the GP's absolutely rubbish

I don’t think you understand the format of the meeting do you ? Every race bar the final is just a qualifying heat. The only race that matters is the final and your boy came second

I have to say, I’m loving your style of presenting. Always looks like you’re having plenty of fun and a very relaxed nice style of interviewing. Not the same old cliche questions you hear all the time. Keep doing what what you're doing mate. Keep your own style and don’t change.

Dan gets gate one and wins with ease

Sorry just read you're above post

I agree with the selection of Lambert, but your quote 'Bewleys was just about 4th.' Well It's not a bad effort when you consider the three riders above above are the current world champion, a three times ex world champion and arguably Polands 2nd best rider.

Absolutely spot on. The worlds top riders back in the day, PC, Ole, Ivan etc, would have two bikes. Most riders only had one. A mechanic would cost you a fish n chip supper. The next day that rider would most likely have gone to work. Now days of course. It's 3 bikes a lovey fully kitted out van and a full time mechanic. So imo riders of today need to ride as many times a week as possible just to cover their outgoings. Unfortunately riders starting out see this as the norm and as such will aspire to making a living out of a sport that attracts less people than a lot of non-league football clubs. It's too far gone now. Riders will not accept anything less than what they get now. Could you imagine for example Bomber being told " You can only ride for one club"! To do this he would have to survive on most likely one bike a smaller van, use a mate for a mechanic and maybe shock horror get a part time job. I don't think it will happen, but if it is left as it is, the riders will have no clubs to ride for!!

Trevor Hedge, Barry Thomas, Peter Collins, Tommy Jansson and Gordon Kennett

I would agree. Not only did you have the likes of Les Collins (2nd World Final) Dave Jessup (2nd World Final) Gordon Kennett (2nd World Final) and Malcom Simmons ( 2nd World final) riding in the National League. (To be fair the riders above were at the tail end of their careers,) but were still very competitive. Then you had the young up and comers. Wiggy, Cross, Loram, Adams, Havlock, Boyce, Wiltshire, who all went on to be genuine World class riders. With Loram and Havvy going on to be World Champions, Wigg and Wiltshire 2nd in World Finals Adams coming 2nd in grand prix series and Boyce getting on the rostrum in the last ever one off World Final after a run off. So you had a great mix of experience and youth Plus some bloody good journey men in the middle in what was a very competitive league. As others have said, todays 2nd tier is arguably not as strong, but that does not diminish from the racing which is very good.

For someone who watches his speedway at Poole every week. Mr Shovlar has a strange outlook on what is good and bad racing. I would have thought any racing would look good compared to the utter crap that that is served up at Wimborne road on a regular basis. Even the home riders in the past have a good moan in public about it!!!!

I think we have been lucky to have seen some fantastic racing this year. Look at heat two tonight. Out of this world and there were plenty more. I thought the whole think has jumped up a notch or two this season. Especially the top end of the field.

I think you're right, but there is no great influx of young new riders coming in. Yes we have Robert Lambert, but then we Kasper and Zagar! Bartoz could go on and win a few more. Woffy has the experience but does he have the desire?

You mean under this system. Let's face he would never get a better chance and yet he was still a poor second to the young Pole. If it were under last years system he would have been miles behind.

They were talking about riders doing back to back titles!! which of course he is one now

Your bloody well right there!!

I agree no system is perfect, but surely no one could doubt that last years systems was the fairest by miles! What you score is what you get. Anyway I'm far too old to understand these new rules they keep bringing in. I will just enjoy the racing

1) It never happened. 2) We were talking about yesterdays Wu21 in czeco not a GP meeting. The clue might have been that I posted it on the wu21 thread and not the GP thread. 3) Read above, Seven points was scored by the young czech in the u21 meeting.which was not part of series of meetings, but a one off meeting. 4) You keep mentioning GP's why? We are not debating GP's? I commented in this thread (u21 thread) on how a guy in a one off world u21 final had a chance of winning having only scored 7 points.

You're starting to confuse me now. In the history of the old one off world final not one meeting was won with a score of less than twelve points. So how you have come up with the idea that ten points would have been enough to win seems very confusing? Yesterdays Wu21 was a one off final and thank god the guy who scored 14 points won the meeting. Not someone scoring seven points and scraping into the semi and have a sniff of becoming champion. If you read again what I wrote. I said You could never score 7 points in and old world final and become world champion. You argument is you could score ten points and become champion, but it never happened! in the whole history of the old world finals!!

I always thought it was only the BSPA who could try and f**k up something which was unbroken. It seems the FIM are doing a pretty good job on how to F**k up a perfectly good system as well. No doubt they will come up with some other fantastic system for next year. Maybe the eight lowest scoring riders get an extra race that counts towards their final score. So that way all riders get a chance to win regardless how poor they rode through the night!!!

Again, as proved yesterday you can score seven points in a world final and still become world champion. Where under an old world final could one have scored even ten points and become world champion?? Your getting qualifying rounds confused with finals.