tyler42

Fair enough

Do you honestly think it is genuine? I would say more like being told to shout by their employers to make it more exciting. Still if you think screaming at the top of your voice is ok, thats fine we are all entitled to our opinions, but you should respect other peoples opinions as well.

Surely whoever dreamed this up needs to be shot. They get rid of the dreaded joker, but come up with something more pathetic. Two day final that comes down to one race and as you say, if the team with the most points over the two days have a mishap in the final, the other team ride round waving to the crowd and take gold.

Even though Poland have won quite a few times. I still think the finals have been very competitive. Last year was the worst in terms of scores, as Poland won it by a big margin. They scored 50 the third place team Russia scored 18!! but if you look at the last four finals before that, the scores have been very close. and in two of them finals Denmark won one and Sweden the other. I agree with you that in theory it should give more nations a chance to be competitive. Lets hope Tuesdays fair produces a bit better racing than tonight and hopefully we will see a great final.

The standard of Speedway in GB has been getting weaker year in year out. IMO the World Team Cup was the one competition especially the latter stages where four riders going hammer and tongues was absolutely brilliant. But changing it to this pairs format, on todays showing is a massive backward step. The difference in class between some of the riders was woful. Maybe when it comes to the two day final, things might change, but why in general does mediocracy seem to be the way forward?

Same here, I can't take no more of Pearson, saying every bloody race is a big one. Just to inform you and your co-commentator. As my old dad use to to say. ' you can't polish a turd' !!

Since speedway has gone down this route of semis and finals. I wonder how the World Championship roll of honour would have looked. Only just recently we had the u21 final where Dan Bewley dropped just the one point, but did not make the rostrum! So come next weeks Pairs Final it will come down to one race. This is for T.V purposes i gather. Anything else then it is a joke. Why keep changing the rules of our sport, year in year out?. It's certainly not getting more people through the turnstiles.

But why was Harris given permission from the authorities to sign for a polish club in the first place?. If he signed for Glasgow after signing for his polish club, Then the bspa should have said to both him and Glasgow, that they would not allow him permission to ride for Glasgow, as he had already signed a contract to ride for the polish club on a Sunday. As we know Polish teams run a squad system and as such Harris would not have been guaranteed a meeting every Sunday in Poland. Hence signing for Glasgow was a no brainer for him. That was until the polish club wanted to use him last week!! So summing up, I think it is a bit unfair to say the polish club are the bad guys in all of this.

Funny, I don't seem to recall Max Fricke or Jason Crump have any problems when Mark worked for them? Mark did work for Harris, but the term, you can't polish a turd comes to mind on that gig!

Poor old Bomber, only beats his team mate in his first two rides .The only opposing rider he beat was Swindon reserve Wajtknecht. He has to be the weakest No1 in the league !!

Of course i don't know for certain what the thinking was in the Lambert camp, but throughout the years it has been the done thing (not cheating, but helping a fellow country man if yourself had no chance of qualifying) i.e Joe screen for Mark Loram John Davis for Michale Lee etc etc. So i go back to what i said earlier. If the Lambert camp had, had a quite word, then things might have turned out differently.

Exactly, Lambert would have thought Bewley was no danger to him, therefor no one in his camp bothered to ask Dan to not get in the way. So people should not blame young Bewley.

I think Hampel scored the same as Bomber in a slightly harder meeting

Yes we are and your opinion of Pearson and Tatum is a lot different to that of mine. As the saying goes 'Each to their own' It would be a very boring world if we all agreed. In my opinion most of the time they come across as very good, but if you think shouting at the top your voice and trying to sound like one of those demented South American football commentators is brilliant for speedway then thats where we have to disagree.

Indeed your quite correct he did win from blue, but just like Emil did in his semi final Zagar missed the gate in the final, but unlike Emil he had a good clear run round the outside of of turn two, which gave him the momentum going down the back straight to pass Doyle.

I think what doesn't help is the way he rides. leg trailing into the bend is not the best way to stay on the bike. He only needs the slightest touch and down he goes and it does happen a lot with him.

How many times has Emil made the semis and then chooses the wrong gate. He certainly needs to look at that.

Not sure Rossiter was watching the same meeting. I thought it was Poole who were the unlucky ones. A 5-1 in heat 2 until Stark had EF. Doyle allowed back in heat 13,which he won. So really on another night Poole could have been going to the 2nd leg a couple of points up.

"Very much so"

Try this https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73468/final-dmj-w-rybniku

Why pay them double? In the 80s Most riders who rode in the second tier fitted a job around their speedway. I know they did more meetings back then. Approx 10 more in league racing, But Why should today's riders have two teams? There is not enough people coming through the turnstiles to support them with their 2-3 bikes big flash vans and mechanics. Before anyone says " oh but it is a lot more professional these days" Rubbish. Most of the time they are riding in front of a few hundred people. At least back in the day crowds were a lot bigger, so promoters could afford the costs a little better. Of course progression is good and its nice to have everything that glitters, but if there is no money then you have to cut you're cloth Accordingly. I'm of an age of when my weekly trip to plough lane was going to see my idols, not a team made up of guests. The team was the same week in week out. I can't remember turning up and being told Trevor Hedge or Slim Jim Tebby were not riding tonight as they were riding for Romford in the 2nd division. So we were using two riders from the Hackney instead! The BSPA have been trying to get both leagues the same in standard over the last couple of years. Surely then the most sensible thing to is amalgamate both leagues. Then that would stop the doubling up "not including the National league boys" and then maybe you will see the same seven riders each week riding for you're team.

What has been quite interesting is, when Tatum has been the main commentator on the rare occasions, the shouting and screaming stops. A couple of years ago when the world team final was re-run on a Sunday morning Tatum and Louis were the commentators. Tatum as the lead was superb no shouting out, just sensible and very enjoyable commentary with Louis giving the more technical side of things. Imo that's how it should be.

Leszno's track is 330 meters. Belle Vue is 347 meters and Kings Lynn is 342 meters. Regarding KL it's fair to say it does not have wide sweeping bends like Leszno but, Belle Vue is the closest to any of the big Polish Tracks. Cook and Worral both ride Belle Vue. Lambert KL whereas Bomber has been a round long enough to have had the experience of riding all over Europe. To ride Belle Vue would require no more technical skill or sheer speed than Leszno as both are very similar as in lots of different lines and speed. KL slightly different but, imo I don't think the poles would have too much trouble adapting. As for technical skills are you suggesting the GB boys are superior to the Poles? I also saw the great teams England had from the 70's and I agree everything goes round. So how long do you think before Team GB are back on top?

Why is it when a GB rider gets beat. We get the same old stock "The Bikes are not fast enough" Sorry but, Cook gets his engines done by PJR and has won two GP qualifiers not sure of Bomber but, He's been a GP rider for ten years plus, so his kit can't be that bad and he did beat Dudek who is co - leading the world championships! Maybe just maybe they are not just good enough, has that never crossed peoples minds? As for the posters who say "The poles engines are big" Got no idea really. If that's the case. Lindback must be riding a 750!!!

Sorry but Doyle was missing through being injured. Woffinden was never going to play a part so he was not missing. The team GB went with was always going to be just that. whereas Australia were a little bit hampered by not having a injured Doyle and a not very fit looking Morris. I don't think people on here are putting Team GB down, just expressing there opinion. Still all will be revealed come Saturday Night. If imo we get a medal regardless of colour then that to me would signal a very good effort and a pat on the boys backs for a job well done. But I do think it will be a tad harder come Saturday than what some posters are saying on here.