tyler42

As happened to Kurtz in the Czech GP. A snapped chain is part and parcel of motorsport. Those that say it cost him the chance of being world champion are being naive. How many riders have missed out on becoming world champion due to a bit of bad luck along the way!!

Poor old Dave. Just think under the new system, he could have been a two time world champion!!!

Thats too sensible for the authorities to comprehend. Just like the stupid scoring system. Which has proved on a few occasions farcical and as you have said the above rule is the most logical, but no they decide thats too easy. They have to go on fastest time!! Just like a rider can score 6 pts and still have the chance making the semi. Not to worry if some poor sod has scored 11 or 12 pts. " Oh no, what will do is give the rider who's been crap all night the same chance as a rider who's had a really good meeting to get to the final! Maybe to even it up even a little bit more. After the riders have had their five rides. Regardless of what they have scored. Have another 4 races Just put them all in a hat. The winner from each heat goes to the final. "Now you all cry thats not fair!!," but is it fair a rider scoring 6 pts should have an equal chance of a rider who has scored 12 pts in reaching the final?

Yes I agree 100%. Last was typical of Morris and co in how they do their business. After every block of rides out comes the watering can. Regardless how good or bad the racing has been. You can bet your bottom dollar, the poor riders who have to go out after watering are in a lottery. Wroclaw being a fine example. Good racing on a dry track week in week out yes, slick sometimes, but at least it's a fair playing field. Come the GP and the track didn't even remotely look like Wroclaw. The FIM, rather than play about with scoring system and introducing silly sprint races, should concentrate on what Morris has been doing all season, which is f**k up good speedway tracks!

I don't think you can really. put it down to a snapped chain. If it was a one off final like back in the day, then yes you have a case. But over ten rounds imo I don't think so. Even without the chain issue, he only just scraped into the lcq as the lowest scorer that night in Prague. You could also say Kurtz had three rounds on his home track. Plus a former home track in Sweden. Kurtz has definitely taken it to another level this season and Bartoz had to ride out of his skin, just to hang on to his coat tails. I personally think the scoring system and the sprint race are all wrong. How many times have we seen riders miss out on a direct passage to the final like Lebedevs tonight, after scoring good pts in their five programmed rides. That doesn't take anything away what Kurtz has achieved. "Five GP wins". That is a record what might be not be broken. I think he will start favourite for next years series. So all in all it has been a fantastic debut season for him. It's just he has come against a very special rider.

Thank you

So who is champion? Very confusing with the Pole having a gold medal beside his name!!

When you've been to a public school and its on your CV. The old boys network kicks and you end up with a nice little number for the rest of your life!!

He broke his leg when he hit a drain lid in the second half of a league meeting at Hyde Road. It was a week before the world final. Even if he did have a league meeting that week. I'm sure no one would have blamed him for missing the meeting with a broken leg!. What I was trying to say, Riders were very much more of club men back then. They didn't ride in Sweden on a Tuesday and Poland on a Sunday. Yes they rode long track meetings in Germany and such, but they were individual meetings, so for the likes of PC and Mort, the Aces was their club. Yes the Aces are Bewley's and Kurtz's club, but they also have a Polish club and a Swedish club and as such their loyalties are split. No doubt the highest payers will always come first and thats not Belle Vue!

Fair play, but I don't think Belle Vue fans from back in the day would have been so generous if PC and Mort had decided not to bother in a cup final. PC if i remember correctly came second in the 77 world final with a broken leg in Sweden in far worse conditions than tonight.

I don't think you can get a yardstick on King's riding tonight against a very poor Belle Vue team. Yes you can only beat whats in front of you, but it will be a different kettle of fish against Sheffield or Leicester.

Once again Lemon Favouring the young Aussie over Mulford. He got a good 2nd there, considering he hadn't not ridden since heat 2.

Good question, but by looking at the way he rides. I would say he wouldn't be popping around at the back. like some!

Does Tatum really think the tie is still up for grabs? or is he just saying that? He does talk a lot of old bol*oc*s on a regular basis though. "Goodness Gracious Me" The public schoolboy coming out in him there!!!

Belle Vue bottom 3 7pts. Ipswich bottom 3 13!!

Slightly harder opposition yesterday !!!

i think he wants Peter Schroecks title as manager of the year!!!!

The only problem with that. It doesn't matter how professional they are if they are riding in front of just a couple of hundred people. You could say some of these riders live in a Fantasy world. You have riders of junior standard turning up with big flash vans all the gear. If it means going back to having one bike in the boot of the car, then maybe you will get youngsters who can afford to do the sport like it use to be. Rather than having rich Mums and Dads to rely on. Having said all of that. Speedway unfortunately is a dying sport. It's been on life support for a while now. Speedway was of a different time back in it's heyday. Demographics have changed. No London clubs. No midland clubs bar Leicester. It's sad but it's reality.

He has been been one of the better RS's imo and has the third highest average behind Flint and Jenkins.

A lot of said riders will be stacking shelves at Tescos soon if they are not to carful !!

I think he got thrown a lifeline tonight. Fricke scored 11pts in the meeting to Lamberts 3pts, but a bit of bad luck for Fricke in the semi final, ment he only ended up with 7pts. So it's all to ride for in Vojens

At the end of the day I and a lot of people on here hate this scoring system, but everybody knew at the start of the season. So if it does come down to the one point that Zmarzlik scored in the sprints and it's the difference between one of them coming world champion, then thats the rules.

Zmarzlik has scored 10 pts in the sprints to Kurtz's 9 so only 1 point gained

There has been plenty of those scenarios this season. Absolute joke of a sport. Even in the final, we had the two top riders on 15 and 13. the other two on 8 and 7 and Fricke sat in the pits watching on 11pts! Surely they have to have a good look and realised they gone it wrong and while they are at it, stop Morris from fu**ing up the track at every GP!!

Zmarzlik threw that away. As proved by choosing Gate four. All he had to do was be on the inside of Kurtz at the start. A win was not necessary. All he had to do was do what he did in heat 19.