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not really - its just credit - they'd have to pay it back those who have already purchasrd avoid that burdon

no, TWK is an embodiment of all thats wrong frozen out and unwelcomed by promotion 200 on the gate if they went!!

said it before but here goes: offer free or v cheap tickets in return for email addresses or and mobile numbers then bombard with info/offers

BBC have a track record of responding badly to organised campaigns by minority sports. They will ignore any such representations rightly or wrongly

you're right but they don't seem to go to the bloody speedway!!

I hope they've taken his belt and shoelaces off him - he must be gutted at the moment he certainly didn't predict it!!

if you think these are the real issues you're sadly mistaken Terry and Ronnie russell, squabbles?? Your average punter who turns up and watches don't even know who these people are They pay their money, watch, realise its not worth the money and don't go back it need not mean dilution - as has been stated on here before - 4 riders of reasonably equal ability is all you need in any race

thats true but Shaleshaker's argument doesn't bear scrutiny because many NL teams are small (Buxton) or 2nd teams (Coventry)

if theres no money in the club why dont they put it up for sale i wish they would - customer relations is absolute zero

Sorry alanf and greyhoundp i meant the riders not the fans my experience is that travelling fans are a fraction what they were and i never even thought about them so low are their numbers usually i stand by my opinion about the message regional leagues sends of 'non national', therefore not premium, competition obviously local derbies will attract a few more fans

I know posters mean well but really forget regionalisation - it would just make the sport look crappy the general public would equate it with the Conference North or something and assume its local team wasn't good enough to be in a national league besides travel within this country isn't really the problem

because we simply dont have the riders

yes Greyhound i got dogs abuse for saying something similar people will just not face facts but the truth is even PL is expensive to run 700 spectators is semi pro sport - therefore pay has to be tailored accordingly and don't give me shortage of riders if foreigners don't come - that'll never ever happen. In 68 and 69 about 15 new teams were staffed for the new BL2 with no problem at all lets prune back the whole goddam thing and try and grow it again

fair enough

what??

everybody wants it to happen but some people just want to say 'told you so' if something goes wrong. Bit pathetic really

well you make some suggestions then thats because, where the sport is concerned, there is woe not at Poole, obviously, but you can't ace against yourselves every week

the Speedway Handbook i had as a kid showed Leicester Lions using the same 1 to 7 in all but 1 match and other teams showed much fewer changes than is currently the case. This was 67 or 68 why is this? is it riders riding in multiple competitions or just the win at all costs mentality or something else altogether

they still have Euro football next year - its the year after when they'll need extra action from somewhere but you are correct it gives more hope

I doubt TWK would disagree - i think he's maybe misunderstood you he and i generally sing from a similar hymnsheet

"So how do expect EL standard riders to be employed in future then? If they can't ride in other leagues or are unwilling to drop to PL wages, where do you expect them to go?" Humphrey, why the hell should we care? They work for the going rate or do something else

To be fair TWK I think you have slightly misunderstood. The collateral damage referred to i think is the riders from abroad we can not afford - i think i'm right in saying that I agree strongly the PL is not broken and should be the benchmark for any amalgamation - however i can't see Poole, etc agreeing to that

there's some great ideas on here but the elephant in the room has to be dealt with: what can be done about the star riders Britain's leagues can not afford.

i dont know why dont you discuss it in Newcastle 2014 thread????

Hull must be a prime site - its a sports town - the council must be sympathetic and theres loads of less than prime land to the east of the city to build a Scunny/Redcar type facility if Mr Mauger wishes to take things forward I'm sure BSF members would petition the council.