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no i am grasping it and i understand that Europe wide it would be hard to get agreement how about this: if you want to ride in UK you use the cheap bike as specified for the rates on offer - if not ta ta Cost cut the engines and we won't even notice i do agree about marketing, etc but you're asking for investment for that and i doubt anyone would want to risk it and of course - market what? - crap tracks, guests, bog hole stadiums, micky mouse rules, etc etc

Poland's a different country, a different culture - the Polish model might not work here - clubs don't own their own stadiums in the middle of cities for one thing - they probably don't have the Nimbys we have I'd rather it died than turned into some kind of WWE freakshow for der kidz

yes cos the sport would be much better if the bikes did 120mph

sorry i think its nonsense that the product would be watered down - its not actual speed that matters just close racing i've said many times before - the tech side is very much second place to most fans - teams and riders come first

managed to get through last night in less than 80 mins

Who will take the lead? Current promoters are interested only in their own businesses not unreasonably I suppose. independent body very badly needed.

I am thinking people might make a weekend of it you never know

whoever suggested the play off final to be the day before the Cardiff GP had a point - it would be quite possible if we got better organised and maybe moved Cardiff back a week or 2 say theres 8 el teams - thats 14 home meetings to finish by end August - doesn't seem too difficult nearly 5 months after the season start a match like that could attract 15/20 000 the night before the GP or even the afternoon following

i know it can not always be helped but given that elongated meetings repeatedly comes up that fans hate them and would turn off first timers perhaps clubs should be given time limits and penalised if they exceed them. Or maybe it should be the referees and start marshalls who should be given responsibility- maybe both should be given powers to penalise ditherers more. Plus if a race is stopped within the first lap the pit door does not open!

yes i did correct myself on that and you are quite right - should have known better than to raise the issue really but i had read so many rave reports and then a couple of posters elsewhere said they thought it was over rated then i remembered my own visit so decided to canvass the wise and good on here. On balance i am happy to say i'm probably wrong going by what most (but not all) have said. I guess the matter should rest there.

to be fair its hard to take a contrary view without appearing to be negative - i suppose boring's a bit strong but i never saw much overtaking cheers tho

thanks for the replies chaps - i only went once and that was in conference days - didn't mean to sound negative i just wondered what others thought

just an opinion old sport - you can only say what you see

two seperate posters on seperate threads have said more or less the same thing: Whats the big deal with the OTA? I myself only went once and i thought it was quite boring - straights just not long enough Am i and my fellow posters missing something?

yes this last point is a problem. Why don't they ask interested parties to write articles and make it clear that it is the writer's view and not necessarily the view of the mag. Perhaps a letters column to express such opinions - emails can be recieved within minutes of production and the magazine is purely acting as a forum

easy answer - run on the night which is best for your club and your fans, sign the riders who can ride on that night, forget all about gp riders or other non British who can not commit.

TWK its a small detour from Whitley Bay i'll pick you up on the way to the opening night

maybe! i think the more reasonable answer is PL, some better budgeting, a regular well chosen race day and some publicity

its funny isn't it - this thread set up to say how unfriendly the speedway friends group allegedly is and we have people described as morons!! I think you'll find the group is friendlier than this is at times although the moderation is a bit weird at times - suppose the best idea is dont say arse or piss!

well if EL was the answer they'd still be there

a tinpot league??? you cheeky sod - u were grateful to be accepted into it

the best track in the world is the next one to be opened or re opened

the trouble with all electronic discussions is getting the tone right - you often disagree with someone and face to face you can read facial expressions and hear voice tones but this all goes online and frankly some people find it a challenge to express themselves in writing in a way that they can manage verbally. Very few face to face discussions end up in abuse but about 50pc of online ones do!

what??

why would 3 healthy succesful relatively well supported cubs commit suicide in a ruined EL which needs putting out of its misery