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they'd be idiots to run with 5 - much better to bite the bullet and do one lge

well they'll have to get real then won't they

excellent idea but i'd be lower than 44 or 5, more like 40

the point i was trying (and seemingly failing) to make is that speedway can not afford international riders at this level.

which is exactly what is not happening at Worky or anywhere else in the 2nd div

so the rugby, football and speedway teams attract roughly similar crowds. One question - do either the rugby or football teams bring players from all over Europe to perform in front of these crowds, and what do they get paid. For the football team i would imagine £100 a game tops.

Ford has been very successful with winning teams. Only one team can win though. The win at all costs attitude has rendered many meetings meaningless. It used to be a night at the speedway - now its a failure if a team isn't constantly winning.

people mention him - i don't know why he'd be interested, there's nowhere near the sort of cash he's made from boxing or snooker.

as long as there's no financial interest to cloud their judgement

well, duh!!

i csn only see something about his brother - no big deal

Rev Richard Coles??? please explain

you'd think talk show hosts would love speedway, what with all the guests

it may be 435th on the list for the media but its top of mine - once a guest is involved i lose interest in the fixture. As a compromise i wouldn't mind D2 riders guesting for D1 and D3 for D2 with strict limitations. As a matter of interest what do you believe IS keeping people away. I think myself its a long list and guests/DU are just one. As an aside, when i started watching speedway if riders couldn't earn a living from racing they worked as well.

i accept your view mate, its just not for me. I suppose one positive would be credibility. Feel the same about guests and i accept the alternative views on that but again not for me. I would quite literally prefer teams getting mullered than using guests, which they often do anyway as guests regularly fail to perform. Just my view.

nothing to do with the eden project

6 an 7 in Div 2 should be du Div 3 riders - giving them a chance to progress DU/DD from Div1 to Div 2 should stop the latter is just too much for those outside the speedway bubble of delusion

Early next year we will no longer be part of the EU. Does this mean that Polish, Swedish, Danish, German, etc riders will need to finish in their national championships top 4 to qualify for permission to work here. Will the authorities refuse all other permits until all British riders are employed? What effect would that have on the leagues and team strengths? Apologies if this is answered elsewhere.

agree with everything you say and would add the stranglehold Poland has on our talent. Terrible example of the lengths they'll go to last night.Missing UK meetings for practice sessions, etc. Riding in both countries is becoming impossible

not to mention the dozens of team changes during the season. No loyalty either way so its no surprise fans don't 'feel' the team or have loyalty to the track. Just because a rider slightly under performs doesn't mean he wasn't someone's favourite

yes but everyone else will be similarly weakened. They could win the league with that team.

think people need to calm down, wasn't there but sounds like he lost control, even Bears fans agree it was his fault. Can't influence the ref though, if it was a poor decision, and it sounds like it was, its not Ben's fault he wasn't excluded it was the refs. Lets not stoke bad feeling and fuel the few idiots we both have.

the plan to launch a Yorkshire Dukes. Gone a bit quiet though after a big announcement.

think it was claimed that the trophy (a silver helmet) was the oldest. Since stolen unfortunately.

actually i don't know why i posted this - i hated 2nd halves haha and the crowd started to drift out. Prefer 14/15 heats plus 3 junior races