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That was what we thought had happened, but nobody near us seamed to know what Ludvig's ave was, so they were unsure, which opened the possibility of having Kus's 2pts removed at a later date...

During last night's meeting there was a query over who was allowed to take the R/R for Palovaara. The programme had Stuart Robson as the rider with the next highest Ave above Palovaara, yet it was Kus who took the R/R ride. Can anybody clear thing's up?

It's been fine all day, should be similar to last week.

Just had a look at the forecast for later today and it slightly different to yesterdays forecast. There's a forecast for a light shower around 8.00pm, which is a similar kind of forecast to last week, and that turned out OK. I'm hoping, because it's an overcast cool day, it give's the track staff the opportunity to prepare the track well (ever the optimist). I'm certainly more optimistic about tonight than I was yesterday regarding the weather.

OK, I'll bite and say, if it goes the full distance, I predict 51-42.

Redcar Bears 1. David Bellego 2. Tobias Busch 3. Hugh Skidmore 4. Jonas B Andersen 5. Lasse Bjerre 6. Simon Nielsen 7. Lee Payne Berwick Bandits: 1. Kevin Doolan 2. Dawid Stachrya 3. Theo Pijper 4. Matthew Wethers 5. Thomas Jorgensen 6. Daniel Gappmaier 7. Liam Carr (probable line ups) David Bellego moves to the Number 1 spot for Redcar. Based on recent improvements, I think it will be a home win. But once again the weather forecast is not good, with rain showers expected from 7.00pm(it's Thursday, what do you expect) but they got it wrong last week. So fingers crossed.

I remember that, it was just in front of me and the rest of the Redcar supporters. It was one of those occasions when the crowd went silent fearing the worst.

Redcar Bears 1. Tobias Busch - 2. Lasse Bjerre - 3. Hugh Skidmore - 4. Jonas B Andersen - 5. David Bellego - 6. Simon Nielsen - 7. Lee Payne TBC - Glasgow Tigers 1. Richard Lawson - 2. Fernando Garcia - 3. Richie Worrall - 4. Rene Bach - 5. Aaron Summers - 6. Nike Lunna - 7. TBC - Read more: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/15909/redcar-glasgow-pl-28-30pm#ixzz4FhPO5GqC Think this is going to be an away win, but should be close. Glasgow arrive on the back of a convincing win at Berwick and have a few riders who know their way around the Media Prima Arena, but recent home performance's suggest this is going to a cracker, if the weather plays ball. The current weather forecast is for showers between now and 3pm, then dry till 9-10pm. Depending on how much rain falls, could determine just how good the racing(if any) will be, the track always benefits from natural watering, let's just hope the weather god's are onside.

I make that 18 riders so I assume 2 of those will be reserves. Morley & Phillips at a guess.

Aww, well that's me put out of my misery, I shall just have to get on with the rest of my day...lol

The forecast for later today is not good. It's going to be one of those "will it, won't it" days. It's currently bright and sunny with rain due around 4.00pm-5.00pm, and when it arrives it due to last until well after 8.00pm. I'm guessing it could be a late rain-off, depending on how much rain falls in that time. I hate these "will it, won't it" days.

But this is Speedway, The BSPA by using the "wildcard" option can have "a get out of jail card". If Peterborough win their group, they qualify on merit, If Peterborough finish as highest scoring second place team, again the BSPA can say they chose Peterborough(as the wildcard) on merit as the second highest scorers. But if Peterborough don't win their Group or finish as highest scoring second placed team, they still have the option to put Peterborough in the final as the Wildcard, all done in the "Best Interests of the sport" If they announce that the Top 3 + Plus highest scoring Second place team qualify for the final, there's the risk of the home team not being in the final, and the perceived loss of income from not having the home team in the final. I personally don't think the crowd for Sunday's events, would be significantly affected if Peterborough didn't make the finals, but it's a risk I don't think the BSPA would be willing to take.

That's the thing with P&P days, it's not possible to see 4 riders racing from the tapes. Payne looked smooth, quick and seamed to be riding the right line, Bukhave looked the opposite. But having said that, Bukhave was searching for different lines and learning the track, where as Payne found a line early on that worked for him and stuck to it, what he will do when there are 3 other riders beside him and he can't pick his own line, remains to be seen. On the weather front, it's cool, drizzly day, the type that can slowly overwhelm a track if it continues for the next 8 hours, but if it stops in the next hour or so, could make for a perfect track (Fingers Crossed it the latter). Looking forward to seeing you.

It's Speedway, so Peterborough replace Plymouth on Saturday. The top team in each group qualify for the final on Sunday + one wildcard team. If Peterborough top their group the wild card entry goes to the highest scoring second team, If Peterborough don't top their group they become the wildcard entry.

It will be interesting to see how things go. At P&P I thought Payne looked far better than Bukhave, whether that means Payne is average and Bukhave is worse or Bukhave is good and Payne is very good, we'll find out on Thursday. I hope it turns out to be the latter, in which case we could have a decent season, but if it's the former it could turn out to be a difficult season ahead. Only time will tell.

I would hope that this years event would be held at the National Stadium (Belle Vue), It would be a shame not to use it now it's been built.

Can someone explain where the new track will be in relation to the present track. Is there a link to the planning application?

He might be a late flourisher :rolf:

I used play a bit of Ice Hockey in my younger days, Billingham Bombers (I was in the juniors team), Durham Wasps, Whitley Bay Warriors. My daughter lives near Durham, I must have a look in and see how the Durham Wasps are doing these days, there was always a heathy rivalry between Billingham and the other two North east teams.

As a neutral, I'm looking forward to a great meeting, shame it's not a Saturday night, but these things happen. Looking at the line-ups, most riders (with one or two exceptions) are quite capable of scoring a 4 ride 12pt maximum at Redcar, which should make for some cracking races. Not sure of the format,16 or 20 heats, but it could end up with every heat being a cracker and any of the 4 in each heat capable of winning the race or finishing last.

I love the play-off's, the crowds at Redcar are massive in September & October. I'm sure the crowds must be equally as good at Workington, Rye House, Berwick, Scunthorpe etc.. The Play-off's are great, if your involved, if your not, who cares anyway..

I'm guessing you would be willing to have Jonas B Andersen as a guest, and suffer from the dis-advantage of Jonas only having a 5.55 ave, compared to Lewis's 7.03 ave. All in the "best interest of the sport" of course.

I'm very pleased for you..Give us a clue, what did he say?

I'm looking forward to visiting the stadium at sometime in the future, and I'm sure I will be impressed by everything. But my visit will be tinged with sadness. Sadness at the fact that the Stadium is 30+ years to late. Stadiums like the new Belle Vue should have been built at a time when the sport was doing well. Promoter took the easy option of setting up in rented stadiums instead of investing in stand alone stadiums. When teams were kicked out, no-one had the vision to build there own stadium, they just moved onto the next stadium that would rent them the space. Planning laws were different then, NIMBY's didn't have as much influence, the sport should have had the vision and the funds to progress the sport without the need to rely on the whims of a Landlord.

For those interested, the google streetview camera went past the site in July 2015, it gives a fair idea of the size of the main stand https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4610361,-2.1893438,3a,75y,203.91h,81.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s53YeJUwIRpQVzqH-tD4EUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en