Ray Stadia

And, unless my memory is wrong, I recall all the hurdles were overcome, but the race track owners wanted silly money to lease/rent the land and wanted a long term commitment. I could be wrong, but that is what is in the 'memory banks'. However, why the discussion over the cost of using the land and lease/rent terms were left to the back end (if what I am saying is correct), that to me, seems a strange way to get a track up and running. But I am happy to be corrected and 'shot down in flames'!

Unfortunately, we can't ask Mr Hill if he is happy how his legacy has been, allegedly, spent. I wonder if it is usual to spend a lot of money on the legal side, when setting up a speedway track? Genuine question and not trying to be controversial. Obviously solicitors are needed for legal contracts, such as leases and rental agreements. If someone is looking to a solicitor/lawyer to forward appeals or defend objections, I can imagine you might have an 'open cheque book' scenario. Let's hope the new team are successful with or without Mr Hill's legacy.

That is true, but if the entity can't pay, who will pay? I would suggest someone will go hungry!

With respect, what reckless allegations? All that has been questioned is 'What happened to Colin Hill's legacy following his death and the so called understanding, his estate included an amount of money to be used to fund the revival of Exeter Speedway'. I understood from this forum of the fact that a sum of money was available for this purpose. All some people have asked, is, is this funding still available? And if not, where did it go? I don't feel that is unreasonable? At present, the only suggestion we have, is that it was used to pay lawyers/solicitors/barristers, for the failed attempt at the horse racing venue.

Well as Gustix said, let's leave it to the mods! Let's hope the guys behind the resurrection of Exeter, can do it without any funding from Mr Hill's estate. I wish them all the best!

Well you are not me....and by the sound of you, I am glad I am not you mate! This is a forum where people discuss things, I am merely discussing and what I said was how it came over to me. And I am sure it is how it came over to others. Perhaps you should stick to trying to resurrect Cradley Heath, which is another 'can of worms'!

Very true, but as I recall, we were led to believe it was a 'Mr Trump crusade' and I thought it was his money that was being used for the venture, especially as he was supposed to be a 'big shot', 'well heeled' businessman. It's always easy to spend someone else's money!

Good point, but if 'the nuisance' was behaving unreasonably and beyond the terms of the planning permission, maybe the Judge(s) had no option, but to agree with the complaint. If someone moves into an area, where there is speedway and 'the nuisance' is complying with their curfew, I would have thought it difficult for a court to side with a complaint from the new resident, in my opinion.

Let's hope so.

If it's true, it's not slander or libel!

I thought we had 'freedom of speech'.........Je suis Charlie, and all that!

You might do better with the other Trump's phone number!

If it was/is a Discretionary Trust, the trustees can pay out the funds to who they wish, so long as they all agree, however, if there was a trust deed that stated the funds were to be used for the resurrection of Exeter Speedway, I would suggest that the funds were not used as to Colin's wishes. But who knows how the Trust was worded.

I think SCB is right, there is more to this saga. I know it was said that after stocks and banger evening meetings, they were clearing up the track, which went on until 2 am, which even for the most accommodating of neighbours, maybe hard to put up with?

That's why I said, depends if the Ltd company owns it. If the stadium is owned by, say, Mr Coventry's wife, then you can see what I mean! I don't know, maybe Mr Coventry's company leases the stadium? he could be a shroud businessman! Then again, he might not!

If the stadium is owned by a limited company and the legal fees are against the company and the company doesn't have the capital or assets to pay the fees, the company will go into liquidation. The stadium owners could perhaps start a new company, without the debt. Depends, I suppose, who owns the stadium, if the company does, then that is an asset which would be used. Maybe Mr Coventry has a 'master plan'?

I must be in a minority at 57! I use FB a lot! Personally, I think a lot of '50 something's' do.

If it was a Skoda, easily good for at least 350,000 Kilometres!

Very dangerous TWK......a new can of worms may now be opening on here!

You really need someone to offer you a lift Hammers66!

But didn't the Dukes have to move somewhere, due to the lamp standards being too close to the track? Or am I wrong or was that a red herring?

Well, when you eventually get to your first 'up front and personal' speedway meeting, you may end up joining 'The Moaners Club', with the rest of us!

I for one, would never say the end product is crap. I appreciate the sport is dangerous and the riders put on the best show they can and I enjoy speedway whatever level I watch it at. The racing I have no issue with. But it doesn't stop me wishing it was like it was 'yesteryear'. When we had 2 leagues that were full of home grown talent. When teams virtually stayed together from one season to another. When local riders rode for their local team. When the stadiums had half decent attendances. And as has been said, many individual meetings that had meaning and were popular. There is much more I could say. That is what I miss! But, yes the basic product is still there, but for me, I want the 'old fluff' as well!

My dad used to watch West Ham when he was a teenager and yes, he was dewy-eyed about the riders he saw at Custom House, but as a 30/40 something he enjoyed the speedway at Rayleigh stadium and can't really remember him moaning, unless it was early season and it was a bit on the chilly side!