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This not only good news for Edinburgh fans but grate news for speedway. It needs teams like the Monarchs to be part of the U.K. speedway scene. Fingers crossed that the negotiations are concluded satisfactorily and that those who compete against you in 2023 appreciate the fact.

Given that Sheffield have a meeting in November why can’t Mildenhall pick a Saturday or Sunday in early/mid November to run these meetings rather than a off night when few will bother to traipse across country to watch late night speedway? Feel for the riders as well as the supporters who deserve more respect. Says it all about how the sport is run in this country and those in charge who continually stick two fingers up at all and sundry. They will only learn if fans boycott meetings but that will not happen but collectively supporters need to do something to teach these morons a lesson.

Yep to all of that. Sob stories about riders spending a fortune on machinery get real, the sponsors partly fund that and the riders have no chance of making it big time without support from benefactors. Stadia falling by the wayside is inevitable otherwise tell us who was willing to put money Into saving Rye House, Arena Essex, Eastbourne, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Somerset, Swindon, Buxton, Stoke and many more. No one with half a brain would invest in a club or track given the current state of the sport and having a group of managers at the level of BSPL who expect you to invest on their terms and conditions without any say in how you run your business and they appear to have an attitude that says sod you in terms of how much money you piss up the wall buying into a failed business model. The BSPL do not allow open licences so that tracks could survive as was the case years back. You need an independent body to run the sport and if that goes against the grain as far as the current crop of promoters is concerned then it shows what a poor business model they have simply to satisfy the egos while pretending to have the best interest of the sport at heart. The halcyon days have long gone and what you see in this country today is a the sad demise of what was once a reasonably supported spectator sport. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and your optimism is to be admired.

Other than major wholesale changes (which will never happen) the chances of attracting those fans who have drifted away, back to the fold are next to zero. The sports controllers have brought the problems on themselves and the riders look after number one and sometimes dictate whether a meeting will go ahead. The fans are bottom of the pile when it comes to being part of any thought process in terms of it being value for money or providing entertainment so that the punters go away wanting more. Where else would you maintain a scenario of having seven man teams but rarely race with seven, more like six and Mr R/R. They cannot even complete the fixtures. You have several months to fulfil the meetings but yet again here it is October and the options for completing fixtures are getting fewer thanks to the weather or the non availability of stadia and probably the doubling up which meant some meetings could not take place earlier in the season because of rider availability. The current business model does not work and those with disposal income who have been going to meetings for many years have decided it is just not worth it and over the years the promoters have failed to make it an attractive form of entertainment for a younger generation. Get rid of the BSPL and start again on an amateur basis with a five year plan to rebuild the rider base. Some stadia will fall by the wayside but it would happen anyway with the current set up and with very few if any local authorities interested in having a track on their door step the chances of new tracks appearing is fairly low. To sum up, the BSPL would have you believe the sport is in good shape. How many fans believe that one?

Even if the season ran from January to December the way the sport is managed, fixture lists compiled and the book of excuses called rules are used, you would still have clubs who could not complete a fixture list. Time to run one home one away league fixture with play offs in August and fill the rest other forms of meaningless meetings and an individual British championship given that most of the riders are only interested in riding for themselves and would need to ride well to make a living rather than rely on clubs to finance what in effect is the riders business. Failing all that just let the riders and clubs pick and chose the meetings and days they want to race. Forgot they already do this!

Not a bad meeting. Tough final, well done to all who took part. Definitely a tight technical track.

On the night the Aces did what was required. Sheffield played their part and both teams put on a decent show. Time to park what has happened and hope those that are left in the leagues come to the tapes in 2023. Stay safe to all who took to the track for our entertainment.

Did Lemon’s decision regarding r r just cost the Aces some valuable points?

It does not match the adrenaline rush of a Polish final what with the crowd/atmosphere. Still good luck to all riders and hopefully everyone comes through it unscathed.

I suspect Zloty which I think would make the sign on fee around £34k and circa £400 a point

According to another thread Sweden have given up on Thursday’s and will race on Tuesday only in the hope that the Poles relax the rules about how many leagues riders can race in. Perhaps the ROW should race from October to March, at least they would have a wider choice of riders.

Wait long enough and it could be the coronation cup.

Well that was bollox. All over with so many heats to go. Not a spectacle more a car crash as far as entertainment is concerned. Add to this two of the most nauseating team managers in the sport (apart from Hawkins) and it sums up why the sport has finally reached its nadir and no right minded investor would think that this is either entertaining or a viable business proposition. If I was Eurosport I would hand back the rights to televise u k speedway.

And trying to get excited about the racing which is worse than watching paint drying. Why don’t they just say this is crap and not worthy of live television, then shut up a play background music during each race. Bore fest sums up this year’s climax to the season and the morons in charge call it entertainment

It really does not excite as a meeting. Sad that the play offs are not living up to most people’s expectations in terms of a spectacle. Oh well always next year.

Agree plus I think that they would need to permanently keep equipment here as it is problematical importing kit into the U.K. Would it be financially worthwhile for many of the riders? Clubs are struggling now from a financial perspective and do you think these professional riders would put up with the farce of programmed meetings here in the u k given that here we are in October and some clubs will have trouble completing their fixtures before the end of October. Yes it would be good to see some of these top flight riders but in reality it will probably not happen given all the logistics issues and increased travel costs between the u k and Europe.

Apart from a decent team, most punters would probably like to see a well thought out racing programme with at the very least regular fortnightly meetings throughout the summer months, not the situation the three leagues are in. The play offs should be done and dusted in late August/early September. What is wrong with those in charge of the sport? For goodness sake start thinking about how to adapt the sport to the domestic market and stop chasing something which is never going to happen, the top overseas riders gracing us with their presence (unless the season is over elsewhere and they see the u k as a soft touch for a few more pounds/euro in the pocket). Diversify and put on the meeting as an event not just 15 heats over two plus hours and think that is job done. It is not value for money. Dump Eurosport for the domestic racing and let BSN take over the broadcast of meetings, invest in what you have not some pipe dream that televised meetings on a main channel is the panacea. So much opportunity but it just lacks imagination by the dinosaurs who run the sport.

Oh forgot that if possible Hawkins ought to do the manly thing but probably still believes he has go what it takes. You have not.

Witches need a clear out. If Doyle is available and does not travel north to the stars then it is build a team around him. Tungate, Batchelor, Starke and King need to go.

Well done the Aces. Just finish the job in the finals.

Mildenhall could probably use him if they ever get round to racing.

Robert is a class act and good luck to him. Sad that he has be brought in to bolster a team that probably did not need it and is up against an opposition who gave up last week so no real test for him. Can they transfer the live coverage to the other match.

Can Batchelor also leave the building. Waste of space.

Witches are as expected. Why bother chasing points, King needs to keep out of harms way for his main team. Hopefully we will not be a Witch next year. He has had his chances, move on please.

Not sure what the fuss is about. As a tie it is over, the Aces are through so just treat it like an individual meeting (ignore who is wearing what race jacket) and hopefully you will see some good races with those who turn up and hopefully all come through unscathed.