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Await Ritchie’s analysis of the teams performance with interest. The Aces seem to have exposed the weaknesses in the Witches but it might just be a minor hiccup. Sad that a team of quality rides can only muster 30 points.

Rewarding failure sums it up. Last year they knew what the outcome would be. It is all about doing the right thing and clearly you are one of those who goes along with the thoughts that some parents have who feel deprived on school sports day when despite the offspring coming last they deserve the same as the winner If you want to make the rules up on the hoof, at least have the decency to tell those who may score points what the rules are before they go chasing an impossible win. I wonder how many would have rode as hard and chased points if they had known this was a possible outcome. Have the decency to state that in the event of the meeting not be completed it does not matter what you score last year’s winner will go through to the GP in the event of riders having equal number of points on the board. Still that does not justify giving it to a rider who failed to make any impact on the night the wild card.Even if you take the rider averages he does not deserve it and if he was any sort of genuine sports competitor he would have declined. But no he did the dishonourable thing and as a result Chris, Dan Scott and others have been screwed. Why would any of the scorers bother competing now. Who knows what result would be if it was rained off again. No wonder speedway is not considered a credible sport in the U.K. I suspect if this had been in Poland, all riders would have been called back to complete or restart the meeting this evening. Those who could not make it would be replaced.

Ellis is big enough to do the right thing. He did not and took advantage of the situation and for that reason he has no moral fibre. Others tonight deserve to go through. He does not and for that he is a scumbag.

Ellis has no moral fibre in him. He was well beaten tonight and should have declined to accept the wild card when riders far better then him were more worthy of the nomination. He has no conscience and seemingly will screw anyone. I hope he can sleep at night.

The only reasonable option is re-run the meeting. This decision is appalling.

What a piss take. Ellis does not deserve it. No wonder this sport is considered a joke. Why bother holding this meeting if those in charge consider this a real option.

Typical of this sport, treat the supporters with contempt, make the fans stand around, t v cannot get answers then film riders laughing and joking once some sort of decision has been made but hey let’s screw everyone. Says it all about the racers and those that run the sport. Two fingers up to the paying punters and the t v audience and while those who have very few skill sets to manage over powered bikes on tracks not suitable to what they are using as tools of their trade, everyone else has to put up with the piss poor attitude that most riders have towards the paying public. It might be difficult at Manchester this evening and because of their delay this holding up racing this is not an isolated incident.

Why not re-run on Thursday or Friday before the GP. I am sure one or two tracks could accommodate the meeting. Just tell the riders to turn up or else.

Shame that the weather has intervened but do the broadcasters understand the sport and the need to get on with the racing rather than take an ad break. It is a minority sport and no one is probably interested in the ads.

P poor support on the terraces. Sad really that speedway and and event like this has fallen to such depths and you have to wonder how you drag it up from the nadir that it seems to have reached. What do those in charge need to do to reinvent this spectacle.

Congratulations to Australia. Shame about the track support. If any new people tuned in and saw the p poor crowd you would wonder why it is given airtime. A decent nights speedway but no one can be proud of the on track support. Sums up speedway.

No they are not consistent enough to be described as on the pace. They and Neil etc think they are but in reality they are NDL level in terms of the international platform. Look at how other nations have progressed and yet GB have gone backwards. Maybe in five to ten years from now they could be competitive but that might be wishful thinking. Until the idiots in charge in the U.K. recognise what a cock up they have made in terms of managing the sport and fully getting behind the riders, team GB will struggle.

No just recognise where they stand and stop having the powers that be build up mediocre riders and start from scratch. GB riders can rise to the top but at this moment they not on the pace and those in charge are doing these lads no favours. The riders are OK but they have a long way to go to be good.

Good final race and both pairs deserved to be in the line up for the last race. Not a bad evenings entertainment and hopefully team GB can take away some useful tips.

Back to basics, team GB are not as good as they believe themselves to be and the powers that be need to stop pretending that GB are a force to be reckoned with. Let the youngsters mature over time, they need to grow into a force to be reckoned with, but at the moment they sit behind many of those on show tonight but can learn.

Not as good as the GB team think they are and the management need to take a look at themselves. GB really do not deserve to qualify but will probably win the get out of jail card. About time the BSPL got a grip and stop chasing the crap they talk about. No rider worth it wants to race in the U.K., as a nation we need to re group and start from the bottom up. What you have now is all too fragile.

What I do not understand is that on the Eurosport SON page where it tells you how to watch it says ”Stream the Speedway of Nations live and ad free on Discovery+ With live action on Eurosport 2 and via Eurosport.co.uk.” Does that mean it is also on-line in the u k but not on TV?

Yep, seen it and agree it is a bad as the British version.. While the racing has its moments it is not top draw in terms of a spectacle it is a poor relation. While the meetings can entertain, they offer mediocre competitive racing and those riders competing are not top level but nevertheless do manage to put on a show. Just do.not over sell, the product, it is second rate.

Agree and that is why this sort of televised meeting is an embarrassment. We should go back to part time riders and racing on nights that stadiums will make the most in terms of income. We cannot compete with Poland or a number of other European leagues in terms of presentation and quality. It is only the promoters who think otherwise and frankly are pissing money up the wall on chasing something which will never happen in this country. That ship has long gone but if those in charge want to go on kidding themselves, carry on losing money you fools. You have dragged the sport to its nadir and for what purpose.

Having watched the Polish matches yesterday this coverage is embarrassing and the track/ support is amateurish and you wonder why they bother televising matches. The commentary is second rate and now you have The old duffer giving it his best. What a load of crap and it is only heat one.

The start sums up just how bad the sport is in this country. Riders need to get a grip.

In your circumstances the only offering that may be worth a look at is the IOW. Apart from this I agree with your sentiments but alas those in charge do not give a fig about the true speedway supporter as opposed to a club follower. Many like to watch the racing and if it is close and competitive most are happy. Teams are a joke with riders competing in all three leagues. It might be better if meetings were individual events made up of riders assigned to club names and at the end of September the riders with the most points were drawn to represent four clubs in a play off. Those clubs could be drawn out of a hat. Ridiculous it may seem but no more than what we have now.

Yep, I understand but speedway use to be a weekly event and was well supported. The point I was trying to make was how times have changed and it is not driven just by economic conditions but the state the sport is in where rider availability and the doubling up down and sideways makes it a nonsense. Ipswich and many other clubs were the stable of weekly track action and many supporters turned out to watch racing. I can remember supporting a Saturday night club and waiting for the results from Canterbury, Coventry, Berwick etc. but now the sport is a pale shadow of what it once was. Alas it will take a combined effort from many to re-establish itself as a serious form of club entertainment.

If I am not mistaken just three more home meetings. Long gone are those halcyon days of weekly meetings at Foxhall. What a sad state of affairs when you are in July and at the height of the school holidays etc. Just two home meetings in August and nothing other than league fixtures with no other offering including the 16 Lapper likely to be run. Ipswich has a loyal following but sadly the sport is shooting itself in the foot and is unlikely to attract a new following with a limited racing calendar.

We must remember that the powers that be run meetings for the benefit of a few riders and not the fee paying public who are basically given what is on offer on a take it or leave basis. Shame that the promoters show so little regard for those who turn out to watch what is sometimes dross and treat them which such contempt. I agree, if this was held on a Friday or Saturday more supporters would travel as they do to the GPs and surely the host stadium would make more money. Says it all when I think it was Tungate who was recently in the Star bemoaning the way speedway was run in this country because it did not suit the overseas riders who would coming flocking back if it changed. U K speedway can neither afford or should give in to rider demands and should plough its own furrow starting by allowing clubs to race on days that suit the business not the rider. Clubs should sign riders who want to commit to British speedway and not want to ride simply to top up the coffers when they have a lull in Poland or elsewhere. Sadly nothing will change and in a few years it will be into single figures the tracks left running and they will only survive if riders are part time and have jobs elsewhere.