Hawk127
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It will need a miracle to turn this around. On the plus side, Emil and Jason are crowd pleasers and more often than not show how it can be done. Apart from these guys the team is a shambles. King and Thompson need to be put out to grass and given that the chances of a play off place are becoming remote, try some new talent and hope that the current set up league wise survives another season. Not convinced that the sport can continue as is and the current arrangements show why more meetings are needed to bring on the talent not the current farce with once every three weeks or so for a home meeting. If you cannot change and start having meetings be they individual, four team or pairs in addition to the joke of league racing than every promoter needs to think long and hard and decide if it is worth continuing with the current set up. While the powers that be piss from a great heigh on Nora events, they are also killing off the sport as we all know it.
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King’s Lynn v Sheffield 01/06/23
Hawk127 replied to Bald Bloke's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Possibly one league with clubs racing on nights that best suit them not dictated by overseas race nights. In reality the league as it stands aspires to something it cannot possibly achieve with the real returns for high flyers being Poland therefore why does the U.K. try to compete by paying some stars top dollar (and yes the likes of Doyle etc deserve it) with a long tail in each team of second strings when in reality the sport in this country can not afford those top guys. If you look at the three top teams in the region, they would be hard pushed between them putting out a competitive team that could operate in the top Polish league. It can go one of two ways in the future, complete revamp under the BSPL or Nora. The way some clubs have been treated recently, many will need to consider what will work best for them, a dictatorship running the show or the show being run with spectators in mind. -
Belle Vue -V- Wolves day/night
Hawk127 replied to Phil The Ace's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Britain’s Got Talent has more entertainment and that is saying something give the presentation on show. Who sold out to Eurosport? Oh well always BSN and next season. -
Belle Vue -V- Wolves day/night
Hawk127 replied to Phil The Ace's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Unfortunately the racing cannot live up to that from Poland. Crowd levels don’t come anywhere near and the atmosphere is flat and now you have the commentator talking horse sh.. about to meetings in one day. No hope for the sport in this country. Would today’s current crop of riders coped with the meeting schedule back in the 70’s and 80’s, I doubt it. -
Sorry but do not know. Just watched the announcement on Discovery and no names were mentioned.
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Well down to Kings Lynn. Great signing and what a meeting it will be between Ipswich and the Stars.
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Belle Vue -V- Wolves day/night
Hawk127 replied to Phil The Ace's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
On Discovery + and it really is amateur status. Give up and stick to streams from Poland on Sunday. -
Belle Vue -V- Wolves day/night
Hawk127 replied to Phil The Ace's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Simply filling in at the moment with mindless drivel of interviews. No wonder the sport is on its knees. Currently showing pictures of the supporters. Bit like Euronews with no comment. -
Belle Vue -V- Wolves day/night
Hawk127 replied to Phil The Ace's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Interviews on Discovery plus. Sold out by the arseholes who signed up the rights to this shower who are showing the sport and you have to wonder what the agenda is/has been of the BSPL and any other authority who has had a say in this farce. -
Belle Vue -V- Wolves day/night
Hawk127 replied to Phil The Ace's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
It has seemingly been delayed by 30 minutes. Sums up the sport. Crap presentation crap timing, better that clubs/stadia give some credence to Nora events and stop the Vatchers of this world calling the shots. Time this guy was eliminated from the sport. -
Finale of UK Speedway ?
Hawk127 replied to old bob at herne bay's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Looking back, on the May bank holiday in 1973, May 26th you had nine meetings Kings Lynn v Leicester, Belle Vue v Wolverhampton, Cradley v Reading, Halifax v Exeter, Berwick v Boston, Canterbury v Peterborough, Rayleigh v Teeside, Swindon v Oxford and a WCQR at Coventry. On bank holiday Monday nine meetings were taking place and between the 24th and 31st May the fixture list showed 53 meetings were due to take place. I afraid that is when speedway was really worth turning out for and many a happy Saturday night spent at the Weir watching leaping Len and the Rockets. Sadly the last season at the stadium. -
Perhaps it should be like American Football, the Poles grace us with a league match in this country and show the BSPA how it is done. Imagine two top clubs from Poland racing in Manchester or Ipswich or Poole and have it televised live on a Sunday afternoon. I guess we just have to dream on but the sport in the U.K. is nowhere near the level that will generate enthusiasm amongst the punters that it does in Poland. Sadly it is past its best in this country.
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Sorry but it just does not compete with Poland at all levels. They have more queuing up for the toilet in a Polish meeting than are on the terraces and excitement is as good as paint drying. U K speedway needs to take a look at how you get people interested, this will not do it.
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In the U K some moan about day time racing, some moan about Sunday meetings but look what you can do with the right riders, an enthusiastic group of supporters and even with the earlier abandoned meeting, the Poles know how to put on a show. U K speedway is so far behind and anyone who has not dropped in on a live stream from Poland should give it a go. You wonder why anyone bothers with speedway U.K.
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Ipswich v Peterborough KOC semi final Thursday 11th May
Hawk127 replied to tocha's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Maybe it was a system issue. When I posted those were the numbers quoted. Thank goodness it was not that bad. -
Ipswich v Peterborough KOC semi final Thursday 11th May
Hawk127 replied to tocha's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
If speedway updates is correct, 99 viewing. What does that say about the meeting? If it is correct it is sad really that the sport has fallen from being a spectacle to an event followed by a fickle bunch of supporters and one has to say is it any wonder that clubs run solely league meetings and dare not risk putting on anything else. Unfortunately the sport is dead in the water and it will take something special to get it back to the halcyon days of league, cup, 4TT and individual classics. If this does not send a message to promoters nothing will. For those still loyal to the sport, it may be that the days are numbered in terms of the current league set up in the U.K. if GP riders cannot not bums on seats such as Poole last evening then it really is time to go back to grass roots. -
It is criminal that the stadium has been allowed to fall into such a state and as sad as it is well done to the two lads who put together the video. Fingers crossed something positive will come from all the efforts being put in to revive the sport at this venue.
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No that was inevitable given the closed ranks of a governing body that is more crooked than the great train robbers. It would be interesting to see what would happen if enough clubs banded together and said they would race under the Nora banner. Seven or more clubs and you have possibly forty nine riders who would have to make a choice to stick with the crooks or go with an organisation who wants to entertain the punters rather than treat the paying public as fools and mugs. The sport needs to be removed from the clutches of the current management set up if it is to have a future.
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The future of British Speedway after the 2023 season
Hawk127 replied to TTT's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Sheffield v Ipswich is now allegedly put back because of a football play off. So speedway just bends over and is shafted by every other outdoor activity. It is a joke given that the speedway stops in October and all other potential events are well known ahead of scheduling speedway meetings. Here you are today with six man teams because of injuries, overseas meetings taking priority over U K meetings, promoters who do not give a rubbishe about the punters, clubs under threat of closure and riders who think that they have some god given right to be paid over the top for mediocre performances and those trying to break into the sport are frustrated at every level and ultimately outgunned by those riders who have some serious sponsors with deeper pockets. It really is time to go back to grass roots and make it part time sport in this country and have standardised machines so that the rider skills come into play rather than the gate and go power machines which do not match the rider’s capability. Not sure how it reinvents itself but time is running out -
No one cares what the punters think. Chapman’s stance is it is my money invested and I do what I like when I like which is an admiral attitude providing it applies across the entire U.K. speedway world which everyone on here knows is not the case. The speedway mafia like to bully many clubs and hate anyone breaking ranks but despite that the main thing is let’s screw the public, it has nothing to do with them what we as promoters decide all we the speedway promoters want is the gate money. It seems so early in the new season but already you have guests galore, six man reams with lucky old R/R making up the numbers, overseas meetings causing issues in the U.K. and yet no one gives a toss about the punters or has the balls to stand up and say it cannot continue to be run this way. No wonder so few attend these days and no one outside the group of diehard supporters takes speedway seriously. If it was a credible sport, where are the major sponsors without whom you still have the current attitude that prevails amongst most promoters of it’s my way or no way.
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Ipswich V Kings Lynn May 1st
Hawk127 replied to cowboy cookie returns?'s topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Sums up today’s generation. Take the cash, screw the fans and bemoan that the supporters show no respect. Is it any wonder that the sport is in on its arse. The riders have no respect for the paying punter, the promoters continue to track six man teams and the seven rider side is unlikely with R/R seemingly common place and a sport that rarely can make ends meet takes the piss and yet in any other form of entertainment, the punter would walk. Not in speedway because the diehards accept what is dished up yet new punters take one look and think it is a joke and those in charge are blind to this. Why do those in charge, the promoters and the riders think they have some god given gift which demands support. The sooner all wake up and realise that they are instrumental in the decline of a once great form of entertainment, the easier it will be to rebuild but until then watch six man teams, 28 day replacements, interference from overseas leagues and riders who will never make the grade as long as the sport is run the way it is and it sums up what dire situation it faces. It needs some serious change but those in charge are as blind as those who do not want to see.