old bob at herne bay

Speedway surely needs to look outside of the box with their views of promoting the sport. Cricket just held its T20 finals day....sell out crowd at £89 a ticket for 3 games of cricket...... Speedway left squabbling over who plays who until a few days beforehand, who can race who on what day....... needs some 21st Century promotion.

Thanks City Rebel.... hope i he is fit for the remaining speedway fixtures. East End Fan.... think it’s a bit of a stretch to name Jake, Dan and Eastbourne’s Vinnie Ford as products of the Kent Royals NDL team.....when they have ridden what one or two home NDL fixtures this season. As for fixture planning, call me sensible, but yes running an NDL side in 2021 seemed a big risk with the late start and very limited track availability.Still I am not privy (nor do I expect to be) to the Kent club or NDL finances and NDL league planning that took place in 2021 that saw IoW not running at all , and later both Newcastle Gems and Eastbourne Seagulls pull out. Len is a staunch advocate of regular weekly racing, ( and I agree with him ) but 2021 was not a year to launch a new CL side and continue to run an NDL side IMO.

Let’s hope Jake isn’t injured ? Last seen at the Swingfield British Masters Grass Meeting. The scheduling of the NDL fixtures at Kent was always planned to be at the end of the season after the CL fixtures. A high risk strategy given the known challenges around track availability. Seems that only Tuesday’s are an option ... even when Tuesday’s are rained off ? ......if Kent had made the CL p.offs they would not complete their NDL home fixtures, even after the demise of Newcastle Gems.

You beat me to it Old Crusader. Expected to see him in the line up at Scunny. Bit of a joke with no NDL meetings for months, then the day they do race only half the team turns up due to a clash with another “ under some age or other “ championship. Kent aren’t serious NDL participants this season IMO, and will struggle to complete their home fixtures, all crammed together in late autumn/ early winter. Lets see if they can manage to parade 7 riders (and no guests) before the season is completed.

Guess Scotty will be riding for the highest bidder. Batchy average might be hard to fit in.....and there’s Starkey . Can they use the same guest in 2 different p off meetings?

Pretty poor RACE track didn’t help ippo .. home riders lose confidence … away riders just take it as they find it.

Tonight’s match postponed due to waterlogged track......restaging date next Tuesday 21/09 ..........from Kent Speedway website

Thought that the best crowds for the PREMIERSHIP play offs (given a blank canvas and the full co operation from all promoters in the sport) would be attracted on either a Friday or Saturday.? Admitted the TV coverage would be a problem ....... and track availability seems to be an issue with dog meetings . You would think that once in a season the track could be made avaialble for a major p. off event. ?? After all speedway seems to move to accommodate major events for dogs bangers stocks etc.

Just wondered how much longer it would be before the showground site finally succumbed to a housing estate. Every time I have visited Alwalton the houses seem ever closer to the speedway track. Assume leisure facilities will include a gym to satisfy the planners. Local council will promise that the speedway track must be retained as part of thier planning permission and cannot be removed . Ah sound familar Rye House fans, Swindon fans ??? Nobody in thier right mind will be building a housing estate with a speedway track in their backyard - it will devalue the potential sale price of the housing. Money talks.

As a neutral, seems that the weather ruined the entertainment. Wet track, and first away first home ( even more than usual) Seen a few meetings like that in my time after travelling hundreds of miles , losing , then long drive home. With p offs and KO cup finals in October the weather is ever more likely to ruin the entertainment. Poole had nothing to prove, already in p offs, Scunthorpe desperate for every point to keep p off chances alive. Probably the difference in the 2 sides attitude last night. Poole deserve a pat on the back for booking a decent gust in place of Schlein, to field a competitive team, when they could have just said stuff it and used r/r.

Start delayed to give time for Steve to find his seat ?

Whats the need for change - its been a highly succesful season, the p.offs got record crowds , and after the challenges of operating with limited crowds due to COVID restrictions, every club has enjoyed a wonderful season. ...... In the fantastic Championship League ......sadly Eastbourne closed, Birmingham suffered financial problems, Newcastle are looking for new owners, Poole are in discussions over the continued use of their stadium, but other than that it has been a wonderful season with entertainment from the top drawer. The stand out "Premiership" tier has once again delivered first class entertainment, and goes from strength to strength, with the BSPL once again struggling to decide who to admit to this "elite" division of racing. This season we had 6 clubs fighting tooth and nail for the coveted 4 play off spots. The qualifiers for the 4 spots were in doubt until early May and this made for some top quality racing of the highest standard that England can offer. Of particular note in 2021 has been the huge success of the rising star programme which has developed so many new potential world champions for English speedway. None of the rising stars were known in the sport at the beginning of the season, and all are truly the product of the rising star programme. Next season will see twice as many rising stars in teams , and England will once again have top calibre riders to challenge the worlds top Speedway Grand Prix stars.

Oh dear, and there was me thinking that the BSPL could agree together on a set of p. off dates for both of "their" leaguesto maximise attendances at all tracks, in the interests of the sport. I should know better . I am a silly old sod :-(

Got to admire your optimism…. For a speedway club that the present owner wants to sell ! Who knows whether Kings Lynn Speedway will even exist in 2022, Buster could fill his stadium with loads more stock car fixtures and no doubt make far more money than piddling around with the BSPL rules and running a speedway team

All rather depends on the weather in early winter... good chance of dates being re arranged. Not sure why 2021 PL play off matches HAVE to be on a Monday or Thursday........

Scunny nearly got away with that … gusts and R/R strengthening their team considerably. Nicol got found out, jumped every start - and could have been excluded in anyone of his rides. For Kent ….. Heeps either cannot ride his home track or he is still troubled by injury, Morley needs a decent mechanic to look after his machinery which is a heap of junk IMO.

Think the tirle "premiership" is a misnomer seeing as so many teams top riders are the same in both leagues!! Makes me wonder why a rider can justorfy being paid more in the "premiership2 than in the Championship. The heat leaders in particular race againsteh same riders in both leagues. What other reason is the "premiership" a more expensve league to operate in ? Or are we all be taken for mugs (again) Wonder what the post covid plan of the BSPL looks like for 2022 ? More rising stars ? lower team CMA's ?

Thought that was the norm now in 21st UK league speedway .... that and regular delays and oh tractor racing. Usually get one good "race" and that's "worth the admission money alone" That's why I rarely go to meetings nowadays.

"Oxford Robins " has a certain tweet to it ..... why bother with Blunsdon Building Site ?

Dont for one second think that promoters are remotely interested in their supporters' views. I have written / emailed to promoters several times, and only once had a reply (from Ronnie Greene at Wimbledon) All this talk of so and so being very approachable and willing to listen etc. etc. load of old tosh . It's their train set and they will do what they like with it. If you dont like it ...... tough. Its their money and they will do what they like .... except when the wheels come off and its the supporters fault for not turning up. All this talk of promoting the sport .... maybe a good start would be to look at the standard of presentation at the actual stadia. For example ... how many fans did Eastbourne lose after subjecting them to a broken starting gate, and then a fence demolition by the tractor ? how many fans did Poole lose after watching an exhibition of track repairs during the meeting? ditto Kent last week (dust bowl) ditto Birmingham first meeting of season (abandoned) and again a few weeks ago dust bowl. The pre meeting parades at tracks also leave a lot to be desired and are very variable. Most riders seem totally uninterested in seeing the crowd, and would rather not bother, the PA systems at some tracks are inaudible and you have no idea who's riding from the "on track " announcer. Som eride around huddled on the back of a tractor, some on thier bikes on the "outfield" so you can actually see them. I would find it very hard to successfully market a product that regularly failed to deliver so spectacularly, and takes place on random days spaced randomly throughout a season.

Looks like Oxford will replace Swindon in 2022 ?

Very sad news about Roy Prodger. He seemed to be Bob Dugard’s right hand man for track prep back in the day, and a very good job he did too. Thoughts with Roy’s family and friends. RIP Roy.

Nice thought Marko… but who would fund the Thurrock Hammers promotion to restart speedway at EB? new air fence ( estimated £20k or more ) BSPL bond to be lodged BSPL membership “fees “ 2 promoters licence holders required

Certain that Pooole will get a walkover vs Eastbourne. Who knows whether the competition will be completed ? Will be a distraction from the p offs. Anyone bovvered ?

Keep on digging Danny - you will get to the bottom of the hole by Friday. How about some traffic cones around the hole ? .