The White Knight

I see where you are coming from wkha1, however, not all of us are "sports stat geeks."

So I suppose that you can draw from this, that honesty is NOT the best policy.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Brandon Estates considering Residents? More to do with MONEY I would guess. More importantly - will this be the end of Speedway at Brandon? I sincerely hope NOT!!!!!

Just a thought. I wonder if some people are put off Speedway by the complicated Average System and some of the more ridiculous Rules?

He reall was Rob. He was always ready to chat, was always very friendly. I liked him very much. I think everybody did at Sunderland.

I, for one, hope that you are right.

Let's hope it is Woffy.

I first saw Vic ride for Sunderland in 1974. He was very well thought of by all at Sunderland Speedway. R.I.P. + Vic.

Nij???

Let's hope the Police can move them on pretty damned quick. I hope there isn't any further damage to the Stadium to add to that already done. :sad:

I'm sort of with you on that Sidney. I do like my Team to win though - as long as they do it fair and square and not through contrived results.

I agree with you. But it does look rather odd. The British Champion riding in the Second Division. There is a precedent for this though. Jack Young, of Edinburgh Monarchs won the World Championship as a Second Division Rider back in 1951.

True. :approve:

It was, yes. But that was matterless Second Halves where the Riders could and did put on a show. Speedway is supposed to be an Entertainment as well as a Sport you know. I used to enjoy the Second Halves too Sidney.

I like Roy. When I was going he had just the right balance of fun for the kids and knowledgeable comment for the adult. Personally I never forget - "The lean green racing machine that is - Andrew Tully". Also I think Barry Wallace deserves praise for his work as the Announcer at Newcastle - oh - I nearly forgot - and Sunderland back in the day................

Well that's the way it reads to me. It still does. Never mind, at least we have established that you are not accusing me of lying. That's the main thing.

Read your Post again. I'll even quote it for you: "Surely treating fans as mugs is thinking they are so thick as to swallow your lies a la Hancock". I have read it a few times, and it still intimates that I lied whka1 - and I did not knowingly do so.

Yeah. But I still don't understand where I told any lies, of which I stand accused. Hancock may have lied, I don't know. I only know that I didn't unless through error.

Crikey!!! You lost me there. What lies would those be then? I may have made a mistake but, I do not deliberately lie. Too many people on here are far too quick to call people liars.

If I knew the answer to that - I would be the greatest Speedway Promoter ever. I'm afraid I don't - so I'm not. :sad:

So would I if I had seen it. :shock: Being a bit of a pessimist - I would have assumed that there was something wrong with my Computer. :rolleyes: Panic would have set in. :D

Part of the reason Speedway will go down the pan. Who can forget the days of Jack Millen storming up to the Referee's Box to 'politely' query a decision on occasions. The same Jack Millen who kicked some lights at Peterborough, I think it was? He needed a Police escort from the Stadium. Ron Wilson at Teesside loved Jack Millen - he always reckoned that Jack could add 500 on to the Gate at Cleveland Park. Why? Because he was a CHARACTER, an ENTERTAINER - probably would not be allowed to race nowadays. People wonder why Gates are down, at least part of the reason is there are no Characters/Entertainers/Villains to attract them. All very sad.

I second that. Well done Matt.

My absence is a protest against Double Points. I still love my Speedway though. One Meeting in three years or more and that was this Season. I only went to see a Sunderland 'Stars' Team riding at Redcar. I had to go, just to see the Sunderland Racejackets back on Track again. Many thanks to Kevin Keay (Promoter) for putting it on.

Jeremy Doncaster was right, in my opinion.