The White Knight

But it is currently illegal sydney - and THAT is surely the point.

Je ne comprends pas???

That's where you are wrong - THERE IS A LIE. The LIE is that the Play Off Winners are League Champions - how can you call them League Champions if they didn't win the League. Bloody crackers if you ask me!! As you say in your last sentence Lioness - it IS a SETUP. I couldn't have put it better myself. :approve: Oh - and if Newcastle DON'T win the League but DO win the Play Offs - they are NOT as far as I am concerned League Champions - they are Play Off winners in my book. Whoever win the League over the Season deserve to be called Champions. (This is to answer someone who asked what I would think about Newcastle winning the Play Offs - now you know).

Yes it IS a Con Lioness. League Championships are won/decided over a whole Season and not in a tuppence halfpenny Play Off Competition. To say - they knew the Rules before the Season started is correct - BUT crucially - it doesn't make it RIGHT does it? The Play Offs is all about money - NOT the Sport. The money could be made in a really good Cup Competition. Sport is about CREDIBILITY as much as anything else - Speedway is losing it's credibility rapidly as is evidenced by the drastically falling Crowds. You are probably right - but that is NOT my point. People who have read my Posts on this Forum KNOW that I have consistently railed against the Play Off System since long before Newcastle lost last year. I have been consistent in my opposition to:- Play Offs, Double Points and the GPs., and other things too. You may not agree with me, that is your privilege, but please believe me when I say that I passionately want Speedway to do well - I can't see that happening as long as unfairness exists in the way the Sport is run and the way the Results are massaged/contrived. I hope I have explained my position and that you appreciate that it is not bitterness because Newcastle lost the Play Offs that I am against the System, I would be against it whoever Won/Lost - it just isn't RIGHT.

Aaah but the Premier League CAN get things wrong - just not as spectacularly as the Elite League seems to manage.

Cost Newcastle the Title last Season Dave - I agree they are exciting - but - the 'Play Off' Champions were most definitely NOT the League Champions. A Champions Cup at the end of the Season would be just as exciting and the Team that won that Competition would be the Premier League Champions Cup Winner. A League Championship is won over a whole Season - to say anything else is illogical. Because other Sports do it does not mean that we have to demean OUR Sport by doing the same thing. Double Points, Play Offs - no the wonder folk are deserting Speedway in their droves.

Wrong Thread Title. The 'ANNUAL SPEEDWAY CON' - it ought to be called now. :mad: League Winners over the Season lose League Title in the 'Annual Speedway Con' - WHAT A JOKE!!! :mad:

Hardly the ELITE League - is it? :rolleyes: :angry: All of this shenanigans is making a mockery of our Sport.

But it IS in this Country. THAT surely is the point.

Sorry - I don't see the point of your Post. We, at Newcastle, are NOT getting a sub standard product. We have been VERY unfortunate with injuries this year. Speedway Supporters appreciate this and the fact that the Team has to, on occasions, struggle on with a Rider short. Remember that with only six Riders in your Team that an injury during a Meeting will put you down to five Riders - then you really are in trouble. R/R isn't ideal but it works. There is nothing wrong with that.

Yes - he was dreadful last night. :sad:

It would certainly help to jazz things up a bit.

Ah yes - that brings back memories. "THIS is the BBC Home Service - Here is the News with Alvar Liddell reading it". Great stuff!!! Thank you for reminding me of the 'Good Old Days' Grand Central.

Because they need something in the Rule Book to cover when they BEND THEM!!! It's embarrassing.

Oi!! I like hairy Spiders!!! B)

Not a great deal to answer your question jimmy jimmy. But - Double Points - 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh' :mad: :mad:

Well said Sidney - one of the nicest and kindest Posts I have ever seen on here. I would just like to say that I have learned a lesson from you today - and - I thank you for that.

You and I must be very similar gustix - I have never drank much, just the odd 'Single Malt'. I was a Forty a day man on the Fags and I too gave up in 1969. I have also, on occasion, been called the Victor Meldrew of this Forum. Scary eh??? :)

I agree with you gustix. Hopefully Michael will now get his life back on track (no pun intended).

No sidney - he's a 'Plonker' (as Del Boy would say). Just ignore him.

Prayer is never wasted. I hope and pray the Ricky can get through this OK.

As I have said MANY times BW - I think they are BOTH false and should be done away with. I am aware that lots of others do not agree with me - but - talking to visiting and Home Supporters at Brough Park - a lot of folk do.

Hope Ricky recovers soon. Very sorry to hear of his accident.

I was!! That is my problem with both Systems Tac Sub AND Double Points. Weak Team fights it's way in to a winning position and then Points are GIFTED to the stronger Team who go on to win the Meeting. ALL WRONG FOR ME!! BeWitcher did ask about the Seventies in an earlier Post orion.

You two are most DEFINITELY NOT alone in your hatred of the bloody stupid 'Joker'. It ruins the credibilty of our Sport and those who brought in the Rule have no conception of how it is viewed by the vast majority of REAL Speedway Supporters. CHEAP AND NASTY!!! :mad: