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Belle Vue don't own their stadium and aren't able to make changes apart from the GH taking priority every penny they have is going into the new stadium which is costing a fortune. Leicester, I believe are spent up aswell. I would say that work which was done as a good will gesture last year is being called in now that Ken Naylor is no longer involved, reading between the lines from LionsDen. Not at all I would say. Like Cardiff I only go for the atmosphere you can keep the rest I don't wnat to drag this thread out anymore so this will be my last word on the subject. Not defending anyone just defending my point of view

Sorry I don't agree Leicester and Belle Vue would be letting the fans down if they stuck 2 fingers up at the sport and turned round and walked away, which is what I would do . I don't see a queue forming to take them over. U are quite right of course he also said it at the 'Long Eaton reunion Do' so not just talking off the cuff either. I have to say if it does go EL i'm not sure I would enjoy it as much. I don't get star struck

Why should the track be a problem to enter the EL? apart from yet another excuse to bring it up. After all Belle Vue are i the Elite League

Good effort by all hope Lewis and Adam are ok

Well face it it's been a bit of a fanny on up till now. I'd even go as far as saying all mouth and no trousers

Fair enough so no reason why BP should not be changed now then!!!!!!! Maybe those that want it changing now should launch a more constructive campaign. I might even do it myself

Best of luck to the YS but I hope they will be relying on a little bit more than luck

To be fair I think Robert 72 is just mischevious and out to wind people up so I tend to ignore him. On another note why did those tracks have to change their shape mid season and why did they not do it in the close season. Is it because the Greyhound tracks had to be altered? and the fact the grehounds don't have seasons it was planned half way through the speedway season? How long did the tracks have to close to get the work completed?

Tracks have to be licensed by the powers that be and I don't imagine an inspection of a re shape half way through the season would be on the cards. I imagine they will have to wait till the close season now..Can I just say I wish DH would close the thing and re shape it then we woulddn't have to listen to permamoaning on here. I'm not bothered about the racing as I have said before but the incesant moaning is starting to get my goat to be frank

You want constructive open debate? Ok............ you start then.

I have already been branded unapproachable you don't expect me to advertise that I have been seen consorting with your sort at Brandon. Do you?

I think everything that needs to be said has been said but if there is any speedway on sat this thread will soon pick up a head of steam again.

Sorry i'm not familiar with Adam's spell at Buxton but he showed excellent commitment last season at BVand he often brought Andrew Tully with him which was a boost to the lower order riders and he was always well humored in the pits which is something you don't see every day. So hopefully Neal and Blacklock may benefit. All the best to Adam hope his season works out for him.

It's a brave chap who strips off and has a shower in Buxton and worthy of everyone's admiration Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

But is that the supporters fault?. Are the riders riding for the club or the supporters?. Or themselves. On the flipside if he doesn't think he could score many points he would be down on points money.

Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

By enlarge that is a very good post OldSparky but Webster wouldn't have decided he couldn't ride the track overnight so as has been asked why sign in the first place?. Practising for all riders who don't live down the road is difficult as it is expensive and time consuming as most of the riders of Websters ilk hold down full time jobs to fund their speedway. I maintain that a ride is a ride you are not in NL to make your fortune. It;s better than having to pay for practice sessions and Amateur meetings which are expensive. at least riding in the NL you get some of your money back and I'm sure Jayne and Richard would have allowed practice time after the meetings when they aren't playing host to the NJL and the supporters would have seen him trying. Apart from this a good post and I do Hope Tim goes on to find what he is looking for.

Ye that'll be it.......Oh dear 'again' call yourself a grown up but you are right about the being bothered thing lets just agree to disagree I think. I'll stick with the Lions you stick with Coventry.

Well there you go. Coventry only has it's facilities because of the Stox and Greyhound and Speedway rides shotgun on those money spinners. Eventually Leicetser will be for all kinds of Speedway events with not bad facilities it has to be said. Not once has a Coventry fan, as I have stood on the terrace between bend 1 & 2 on my own, has anyone ever made the effort to speak to me at Brandon. I'm sorry I don't share your view of friendly Yours faithfully Rose tinted

Glad I brightened your day I think the fact that he has already made alterations indicates he knows there is something wrong with the track....I don't think anyone of us has defended the track itself although I maintain it's the riders but the more realistic of us know it isn't going to turn into Scunthorpe overnight Scunthorpe didn't turn into Scunthorpe over night (I use Scunny as that is the track we keep getting thrown at us note it isn't Brandon)and as I have said before maybe the shape wasn't the best but you cant undo the done i'm affraid even in the best of fairy tales what we are defending is the process of putting it right you have already made it quite plain how much money DH owes and court cases which are going on etc..... so where do you expect him to get the money from 'only £6.000' the 2 track reshapes which have been mentioned on here Glasgow and Ipswich are far far more then taht. Do you have that in small change????. Then maybe you shouldn't demand others spend what they haven't got either.

To be fair I have stood on the terraces ay Coventry feeling no allegiance whatsoever to either team on track so I cant comment on from that perspective when you stand there not really careing who wins or loses I have, however suported individual riders but that is different. From a neutral poInt of view haven't found the racing at Brandon exhilarating in fact I haven't found it much beter than BP as generally whn anybody tries to pass at Brandon they invariably fall. I feel an allegiance to the Lions so maybe it is blind faith but I hand over my £15 and I believe holisitcally what BP offers is far superior to any other track. We all go with different agendas mine is the whole package. Thats what I call entertainment. But that os course is just my opnion

Well in that case you wont be able to afford to support 2 teams. I suggest you just stick with Coventry becuase the entertainment there is second to none.........Not

Al the best to Kyle H and Jason G...........Come on lads show em who's boss. But don't hurt yourselves

You pay for it then. The £15 you 'don't' pay a week wont pay for track changes you will need to move in with '10 grand'. I'm sure you wont be turned away

Unfortunatley the negativity comes from the poilitics of the original management set up which split the supporters into 2 camps, I'm affraid. Had the management structure remaind as it was originally planned I believe this would never have happened.