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I agree. The likes of the three Lewis's, Kyle, Steve W, Charles W, etc, are competing in a mini league amongst themselves, and in many case can swing meetings their way, more so than the other mini league going on with the better riders.

Never ever heard of a Start Marshall getting paid. All urban myth. The only official to be paid is the track curator, as well as the referee.

Don't knock it. Nicki and Jesper Olsen were great together as a team in 1998, as long as Jesper was at the back.

You are, as Shadders has pointed out above. No wonder some fans have twisted views about the realities of running speedway. Promoters with new cars of course are fiddling the speedway to pay for it. Oh Dear.

Actually you are both right, as the deliberately missed meeting by Wolbert to keep his lower average, was at the back end on 2009, which was the fundamental reason they were 'too strong' in 2010 when they beat us to the PL title. We won the three other ones on offer though.

As Paulco implies, what happened in 2010 then. Hibernating.

I think we already had enough fluids. Actually there was still standing water on the track on Sunday at 1.30pm, but according to Matty we only had a bit of rain on Friday afternoon.

You could be right, but my understanding after we got stopped signing Robert, was that we would look at the possibility again when Danny got a new average. I remember at the time saying "yes, but he will have an even higher average then, and others might increase their averages". See what happens when Danny gets his new average.

Yes now, but not then.

On the other hand I thought he could once he got rid of the assessed average. I thought that once our Danny gets his PL average, one of the options was to go back in for Robert. Hmmm.

Oh Dear. Nobody has said or insisted that they can't have an opinion on the matter, Right. Similarly, others are equally entitled to comment on another's opinion. It's a discussion forum FFS.

But what will happen to the revered trophy. (if that's the spring thingy)

I thought his main worry was a twisted knee.

I think you will find the relevance is because one of the complainers is from Berwick and stands with him. He jokes about our reference to the weather, but it was the same weather that has caused major probs for their FIM track with heavy rain and their use of sheets at FIM approved events. If it affects them, how can it not effect us and our track.

Not really. Same old tight corners and long straights like it will always be. Like BV, constraints by a dog track limit what you can change. In the old days the track was flat, but now we dish out the inside line, to try and create some banking. I wanted us to raise the outside of the bends by about 18inches, but the stadium insisted that their punters must be able to see the doggies legs at all times when they were racing. So we had to dish it out to get the banking. Nothing much more can be changed, so it's basically still the track that Mauger rode, and who used to come and visit us unannounced to the crowd as least once a year. His opinion was always the same. He even visited out training session a few years ago (poss 2010) and was still the same opinion and was still enthusiastic about his former 'home'.

Does it matter, Ivan said it all the time, hence the reason we continued to get Kiwis recommended to start their careers at Brough. Same with our Danes, passed the word on to other Danes and they still kept coming.

Not true, and the coincidence is not relevant. Whilst we as a consortium were buying the promotion off Richard Bailey, Kevin Wild, the owner, told us not to bother as he had gone off speedway and he said we could not be there in 1995. We still went head with the sale, but Wild then reconfirmed he wasn't interested. Only the sale of the stadium to his accountant Eric Armstrong, allowed us to return to Brough in 1997 under me and George English.

For the millionth time, stop exaggerating. Only WC that didn't like Brough was Havvy jr so that does't count. Ha Ha, great insight and judgement. Nielsen 1+1, 3, 2+1, 0, 2+1,2+1 = 10 +4 =14 must be a lot of slower donkeys about. Auty doesn't not come off the throttle, and his bike usually reacts in a strange way as well. No comment

Cost of course is the biggest stumbling block, and probably the reluctance of the stadium owners to lose more centre green. Talking about widening the straights, unfortunately that then makes the bends even tighter, hence the reason why we only went for the minimum width allowed, which is 8 metres, when rebuilding the track for our first season in 1997. Interesting that Northside Training track in Worky, used to have massive corners with little centre green. Unfortunately, kids who rode the inside line were then faced with the problem of hitting the fence, which was then straight in front of them. They then took the inside line out narrowing the bends, and created more natural and traditional curves which has made the circuit for some great safe racing. Incidently, we did take 2 metres off the centre green apex of the 1st/2nd conner in the late 90's to give more width to the track, but several local riders though we have spoilt the track. The first and 2nd bends are still 2 metres narrower than the 3rd/4th, but then most riders don't use the full width of the 3rd/4th, except for those who have got themselves into big trouble. Yes, I would remind B 4 Life of his actions after the Bandits last visit. Stood with the Pieman and Seedef, never said a wrong word to them during the meeting, but gave it large on here when other Berwick fans decided to attribute their thrashing on the track.

Quite agree. After the heavy rains on Thursday morning and all day Friday, I knew there would be a lot of water lying on the track softening it up. In view of the fact that lightish rain was forecast from 10 till 6.00pm yesterday I cancelled the training school as i knew Jonny would need a lot of access to the track, and we were unlikely to get on the track. Although the rain didn't come yesterday, Jonny told me he had taken 7 and a half bowsers full of water off the track, and there was no chance that the training school could have been held. He showed me the pics he usually takes in such cases, and they showed that the back straight was all under water, the second and most of the first bend were under water, and the inside line of the third and forth were also flooded. Despite the difficulties that we are faced with at Brough, we regularly get good marks from all the refs for track preparation, so they don't see there is a problem. Given the problems i have explained above, I would agree that last nights track was not great and a light blade was used early last night quite early on, and that is not usual. As others have stated, Brough needs to be ridden and attacked using more brain than speed, and i'm afraid that riders like Howarth, Auty, Roynon, Hall, Morris, will always have problems with their style of riding. Simon Nielsen( my rider of the night last night) showed them all up by his steady fast and professional way he rode the track all night. A lad who is not having a great season, been a guest twice now with good success, he certainly showed the others how to ride it safely. I would sign him in a flash should he become available, and if Scramm does not come back soon. As to the injuries, three riders withdrawn from a meeting sounds like carnage to some but. In heat one, a rider who had not ridden Brough before, clips the back of his teammate Barker, twists his knee and, unknown at the time, Barker after two epic battles with King and Robson, decides to retire from the meeting citing rib problems. So that's two out from a simple fall from a rider error. In heat 10, 4 riders get tangled up coming out of the second bend, all at the same time and they go down. All 4 back, but Kyle unfortunately injures a shoulder, but also gets a knock from his goggles that gives him blurred vision in one eye. Could have happened at any track, at anytime. So that's three out of the meeting unfortunately. Unfortunately that meant more rides for the 2 Devil reserves who weren't watching Nielsen, and either had no idea or desire to ride Brough correctly. This was something that was cited against some Devil riders at Berwick the previous night, so I think the Devils management could soon be required o change their team to rectify their present problems. Bringing in rides from abroad to ride like that, is to good for British speedway. As someone said to me last night "surely they could find some one British who could ride better than that for a fraction of the cost". Anyway, this whole discussion has accidentally brought so many speedway fans together once again, in pursuit of their obsessions. Step forward, montie, Drac, TaylorJ, Bandits(4 life and 4 Ever), and now Mr Blobby. So predictable, whatever would we do without you.

I think both Olly Greenwood and Simon Nielsen are better shouts than Dan.

Now now. Nick is our man.

and trying to pin it on PAUL Ackroyd. Have they no shame.

Of course. Can you not remember that famous case years ago when Makovski was stopped on a motorway by riot police, after a fellow traveller reported seeing a rifle sticking up in his van. Damned handlebars killed the story.