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Thanks frigbo. I think I went to every home Hammers match that season except two and a good number of away matches (including our glorious night of triumph at Cradley Heath when we clinched the double - sorry reliving old glories there!) and I'd never heard of Kevin Russell and John Ellis. Your post explains why!

It's no good getting excited now, TTF. You should have told us before the final you were supporting Nicki instead of keeping quiet about it.... ;-)

Who are/were Kevin Russell and John Ellis? Which matches did they ride in?

Red Ott rode for Crayford in 1975.

What have they bottled? And where can you buy it?

Think I'll stick to writing history...The future is obviously not my strong point.

i suppose you'll want to add Ivan Mauger and Ole Olsen to that list aswell... And Anders Michanek as well. Anyway, I was hoping Crump would win after all the bad luck he's had the year, but fair dos to Nicki. You can't say he didn't deserve on the evidence of the night's racing. Next year, Crumpy!

Yes. Unfortunately I can't remember where I was at the time...

And if it stays like this Pedersen will go marching on.

It's OK, I'm here now. I haven't a clue by the way.

If they had 16 riders they could run each meeting over 20 heats so that every rider met every other rider once each. They could all have at least one ride off each gate...and...er...is this a step forward?

1. Rickardsson 2. Crump 3. Sullivan 4. Holta

I'm sure he must have gone right round the fence to do it!

The Poole rider in front could be either Geoff Mudge, Pete Smith or Bill Andrew. Harrfeldt and Leonard met Andrew and Smith in Heat 2 (4-2 to the Hammers: result 1st Harrfeldt 2nd Smith 3rd Leonard Andrew did not finish) and met Mudge and Smith in heat 6 (another 4-2: 1st Harrfeldt 2nd Mudge 3rd Leonard 4th Smith). West Ham won the match 48-30. McKinlay and Harrfeldt both scored maximums. Message to falcace - it's Samorodov

Speedway in Scotland also covers the history of Edinburgh and is also by Henry and Moultray and is in print. It's a Tempus book.

No.11 is Dave Jessup

Yes, you could be right about 1972. It was the one year, Ole topped Ivan in the averages too. OK, I'll give you that one!

No. 60 again... If Brian Leonard is in red, the other West Ham rider must be Ted Ede and the Poole riders are: White - Ronnie Genz; Y&B - Pete Munday. (and it's Heat 8 of the West Ham v. Poole match on 27 July) If Brian Leonard is in blue then the other Hammer is Sverre Harrfeldt. I'll save the Poole riders until you tell me if Brian is in red.... How am I doing, Gem?

Stop sitting on the fence, TTF. Why can't you just say who you want to win.

61 looks like Peter Craven Damn! You just beat me to it Grachan!

Just some preliminary thoughts.... I agree with Grachan about 1980. I think Michael Lee would have won. 1983-1988 almost impossible to say which of the two, Nielsen and Gundersen, would have won each year. Pot luck! I know I shall incur the wrath of many on here, but I don't think Kenny Carter would have won in 1982 either. I'd go for Bruce Penhall. 1972 I'd go for Mauger over Olsen - more consistent. Olsen had his moments, but over a whole Grand Prix season can't see him beating Mauger. Just to go back a bit in time: 1960 Ove Fundin (Ove Fundin) 1961 Ove Fundin (Ove Fundin) 1962 Ove Fundin (Peter Craven) 1963 Ove Fundin (Ove Fundin) 1964 Barry Briggs (Barry Briggs) 1965 Igor Plechanov (Bjorn Knutsson) 1966 Barry Briggs (Barry Briggs) 1967 Barry Briggs (Ove Fundin) 1968 Ivan Mauger (Ivan Mauger) 1969 Ivan Mauger (Ivan Mauger)

It can't be Ray Wickett because he's in third place! Don't forget Dave Wills, killed on 22 June. Anyway, the point of this posting is to say, I agree, CHK, it does look a lot like Stan's style. Wait till I get home and look up my programmes. 1965, what a year for the Hammers!

Ian Perkin already has a web site devoted to the history of the Dons, which I believe is also now on the official Wimbledon Web Site. However, I am quite happy to e-mail you copies of photographs I have. It could take some time.....

It is correct, but I don't think he has any for sale any more. You just have to keep a look out on eBay, dealers' lists, etc.