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We've been discussing the BBC TV Sports Personality of the Year elsewhere on the Forum. This thread reminded me that Peter Collins came in the first 6 in 1976. The last time a speedway rider made the top 6 I think?

Direct from Tempus or any book shop would be able to order it for you.

John Louis? He came fourth in 1974 and third in 1975. Terry Betts also reached a World Final.

I have a Polish colleague at work who is mad keen on speedway (one of us in fact). He is also considering writing a book (in English) about Polish speedway stars. He is thinking of doing fairly short biographies of Jancarz, Plech, Woryna and Szczakiel to start with (as a single volume). I would be interested to know what you all think about the prospects of such a book. Would you buy it? Even if you wouldn't personally, do you think it would sell well enough in the UK to make it worth a publisher's while? Do you have any better suggestions for a book. He is also considering at some point a complete history of Polish speedway but wants to start with something else first to see what the demand for books about Polish speedway might be. Any views and comments will be gratefully received and passed on. Thank you.

There was a challenge match on 21 August at Cradley, which West Ham won 46 or 47-31. The report in the 7 September West Ham programme says, "At full strength we have been to Cradley, where, under terrible conditions, we agreed to race a challenge fixture...our boys stormed home 46-31 (the back of the programme results list gives the score as 47-31), Sverre and Malcolm riding unbeaten throughout. "With our league championship hopes far from doused, we certainly needed those two League points at Cradley; but we are men of our word. We agreed to race a challenge and we will honour that agreement. "In any case, our lads are confident that they can return to Cradley and win again." Sounds like that was the match.

Don't think it could have been the same match, salty. John Hart took his four programmed rides and took one as a tactical substitute as well in the last heat. He also took part in the second half, although he suffered engine failure.

Mind you, he wasn't as good as Ken! Ken got 9 points from three rides. He had engine failure before his first race. And then, as I have said above, Ken beat Sverre in the second half final. Sorry Heathens fans for completely hi-jacking this thread!

Sverre was brilliant that night as I recall...ooops, sorry, CHK.

47-31 to the Hammers Cradley John Hart 7 Goog Allan 6 Leo Mcauliffe 5 Eric Hockaday 5 Ivor Hughes 4 Chris Julian 4 George Major 0. West Ham Sverre Harrfeldt 12 Ken Mckinlay 9 Malc Simmons 9 Norman Hunter 8 Brian Leonard 5 Tony Clarke 2 Reg Trott 2 That's what my programme says! Ken McKinlay won the second half from Sverre Harrfeldt with Norman Hunter third. Brian Leonard won the reserves second half event. A good night for the Hammers

They certainly sound familiar...especially Leo McAuliffe, who, of course, rode for New Cross. By the way, do you mean Tim Bungay?

How about Ronnie Moore? See Brian Burford's article in last week's Speedway Star.

I only ever went to Cradley once and it was one of the happiest nights of my speedway life as it was the night West Ham completed the treble in 1965 - the first year of the British League. I can't remember any of the Cradley riders I'm sorry to say, but I can remember the West Ham team. (I'll look up the programme tonight and see who was riding for Cradley - unless anyone can tell me in the meantime.)

I still want to know if my answer to Dick Dastardly's question is right! Come back, Jim.... Anyway, where's your question gone?

They didn't have a home base. That's why they were called the Rovers. By the way, Jim, what's the answer to your question? The suspense is killing me!

Thanks for ther memory there, Grachan. One of the all time great races. Ahem!

Erik Gundersen? 1984 Longtrack other three 1985.

Correct

OK, talking of Norwich and 1962...which rider made his debut for Norwich in 1960 scoring nil points from 4 matches, but in 1962 went to Belle Vue with the Stars and scored a 15 point maximum in a league match including two victories over Peter Craven on a night when Fundin scored just 4 points?

Ove Fundin, Olle Nygren and Gote Nordin. Next. Correct Touche!

Name the three Swedes who rode for Norwich in 1962

Did you see the photograph of our old friend 'Crusty' Pye in last week's Speedway Star. He was on the right of the post-war Middlesborough team line up. Good to see he's been recognised at last.

Graham Banks Next

Not quite. We haven't discussed the merits of Eric Collins yet - rode for Wimbledon before the War. Was he as good as Neil? Or maybe Les?

Wouldn't exactly stick my life on him being the best ever Norbold. But the Peter Collins of the mid-70s was definitely up there - he was magic. Yep, I'll go along with that.

Don't know I'd go as far as most talented rider in the world ever, but certainly in the Collins family.