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The problem is that different people have different ideas about who the REAL master was. This is a Speedway Museum with an international dimension. For that reason I think it is absolutely right not to honour one rider and one club. At the moment what we do have in the Museum is a corner devoted solely to Peter Craven and that's probably the right way to honour him. It is not tinkering, it is adopting a more professional approach. George and Linda were always the first to say they knew very little about museum presentation. Of course we owe an enormous debt of gratitude to them for bringing the museum about, but it seems to me that by making the museum the best we can possibly make it is honouring them far more than just letting it stay static and not trying to improve it.

Yes, and also Merv Harding, the Red Devil, at about the same time with his red leathers.

Just for you, iris...: 1. Redmond, Stevens, E. Reeves, Warner, 66.4 3-3 2. Chandler, B Dugard, Julian, Penniket, 64.0 2-4 (5-7) 3. Squibb, Cresp, Major, Lukehurst, 63.6 3-3 (8-10) 4. Stevens, Wickett, Warner, Stone, 64.8, 3-3 (11-13) 5. Squibb, Julian, Chandler, Lukehurst, 63.4 3-3 (14-16) 6. Redomnd, Dugard, Warner, Penniket, 62.0 2-4 (16-20) 7. Cresp, Major, Stevens, Reeves (f), 63.4 1-5 (17-25) 8. Duagrd, Chamdelr, Stone, Wickett, 62.4 4-2 (21-27) 9. (re-run) Squibb, Lukehurst, Redmond (ef), Warner (f), 62.0 5-0 (26-27) 10. Dugard, Cresp, Major, Penniket, 62.2, 3-3 (29-30) 11. Julian, Stevens, Chandler, Stone, 63.4, 2-4 (31-34) 12. Dugard, Cresp, Redmond, Lukehurst, 63.2 3-3 (34-37) 13. Squibb, Julian, Reeves, Major (f), 62.8 4-2 (38-39) JUNIOR SCURRY: Reeves, Stone, Collins, Marren, 64.4 RANGERS' STAKES: Heat 1. Lukehurst, Redmond, Chandler, Stone (f) Heat 2. Squibb, Cresp, Reeves, Collins, 62.4 Heat 3. Dugard, Julian, Wickett, Stone, 63.4 Heat 4. Major, Wickett, Stevens, Penniket, 64.0 Final. Squibb, Dugard, Major, Reeves (no time) It was New Cross's first home loss of the season...there were many more to come! How does that compare with yours andout?

Well it is to me. Thanks, iris.

Sorry, keef, for not replying. Yes, as speedyguy says the last meeting at New Cross was 2 August. A day that will for ever live in infamy! I was there too - perhaps we met in another life?

Thanks steve. One last question...Eddie or Reg? iris, I'm not sure what you mean by: "In my programme it is Eddie,who has replaced the printed Reg and moved from no.6 into the no.7 spot." Are you saying that Reg was originally at no. 7, but Eddie replaced him by being moved from the team to reserve? Sounds unlikely. And who came in at no 6? Terry Stone? Was he not on the original programme?

Ooops, sorry, so it does. Now I know why I failed O' level maths... P.S., iris, can you tell me whether it was Reg or Eddie Reeves?

Yes, but what about Geoff Penniket?

Just one question, andout. Was that Reg Reeves or Eddie Reeves? I think it must have been Eddie as I believe Reg was injured at about that time, wasn't he? Edit: Just seen your post, iris. Oh dear, that doesn't help! Further edit: The match score was New Cross 35 Stoke 43, which is what andout's adds up to. Your programme, iris, comes out at New Cross 37 Stoke 41. So, I'll go along with andout's!

Thanks, andout. That's brilliant and much appreciated.

Why do I seem to have one Speedway Star missing from each year??? No, that's not the question I need help with... This time, it's riders, no.of rides, points, bonus points for New Cross riders in the match against Stoke at home on 9 July 1963. The results would be in the July 20th edition of Speedway Star & News. Thank you.

Just as well you didn't.

Yes and yes.

Thank you. Brilliant. Just what I wanted. Much appreciated.

Ove was suspended by SVEMO because he had taken part in a car race when he should have been taking part in a World Championship qualifier. Before the ban he rode for Long Eaton.

Thanks peatbog but I do know the results, it's the individual scores I'm after. And yes, they were the League matches. There was no Britannia Shield in 1961. I'm very much looking forward to your next communication, frigbo.

I realise this could be a long shot, but does anyone have details of the two National League matches between New Cross and Southampton on 18 and 19 April 1961? I am after the New Cross riders' no. of rides, points and bonus points. Thank you. P.S. The details would be in the 29 April Speedway Star and News, which, for some reason, is the only one I don't have from the 1961 season!

Wally Lloyd was a top man and one of the 1928 pioneers. He rode at Hall Green and Perry Barr in 1929. In 1930 he moved on to Crystal Palace. Then to Lea Bridge in 1931, Southampton in 1932. Back to Clapton (Lea Bridge) when Southampton moved there later in 1932, where he stayed in 1933. In 1934 he returned to Hall Green. In 1935 he rode for Hackney Wick and then on to Wembley for two seasons. In 1938 he moved to Wimbledon. He made his Test debut for England at Sydney in the 1937/38 series. In 1938/39 he appeared in all five Tests. He made his home Test debut in 1939 at Wimbledon. In 1946 he joined Belle Vue and scored 159 points. He also qualified for the British Riders' Championship final that year, scoring five points. He remained with Belle Vue in 1947, scoring 177 points. He raced in two further Test seris in 1947 and 1948. He then retired from racing to become manager at Walthamstow in 1949. His brother, Jeff, was another top rider. He rode for Newcastle, New Cross and Harringay amongst others. Do you want some more information on him as well? P.S. I have photographs of both Wally and Jeff Lloyd. Where shall I send them?

I won't tell him if you don't...

I could send you some of New Cross...if I had your email address!

I've just come across an interesting formula in use in 1950 for the Spring Cup. It was 10 riders per side in a 20 heat match. I think I might suggest that to Terry Russell for next year's Elite League. That should keep the costs down!

Nick Nicholls rode for Coventry from 1959 to 1961. 1959: He scored 45 points at an average of 5.63 1960: 108 points at an average of 3.86. 1961: 140 points at an average of 3.78. He started 1959 at Oxford, riding in 9 matches for 60 points before moving to Coventry.

Yes, good idea Spinkox. We have already been thinking about doing that. As you say, it might be quite depressing though!

Eric Hockaday was a top man in the early days of the Provincial League. In 1960 he was second highest scorer for the league champions, Rayleigh, scoring 196 points at an average of 9.33 and was ranked 11th in the Speedway Star's end of season Provincial League rankings. In 1961 he moved on to Stoke where he scored 277 points in all competitions at an average of 7.91. He started 1962 with Leicester, scoring 28 points in four matches and then moved back to Stoke where he was the team's top scorer with 147 points at an average of 8.6. P.S. I should add that he is currently a member of the WSRA.

The following week, the West Ham programme referred obliquely to this incident just saying, "Thanks for all the letters we've received during the week regarding the Wimbledon match. Wonderful to know so many people are behind us." Of course, Olle Nygren was the big hate figure at Custom House at this time...and then, two years later, he was transferred to us, following Harrfeldt's retirement. It took a long time to get used to him!!! But we did.