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Presumably if the photographer sold the photograph with copyright to the magazine the magazine holds the copyright. It can't revert back to the photographer's family after he dies. If you wanted to reproduce the photograph you would have to get permission from the magazine not from the person (company) who now has the photograph. In fact they would actually need to get permission themselves if they wished to reproduce the photograph. When the law was changed some years ago, we ran into a similar problem at The British Museum. We sold photographs to members of the public and sometimes gave permission to these people to publish the photograph in a book or magazine. Because they had published the photograph and we hadn't they actually had the copyright on future reproduction rights and not us, even though it was our photo of one of our objects. We then had to then make it clear in any agreement we made that permission was for a one off reproduction and did not confer any rights on the publisher.

Of course, going back to the early days, you had riders like: Slider Shuttleworth Sig Schlamm Riskit Riley Hurrican Hampson Acorn Dobson Buzz Hibberd Champ Upham Cyclone Smith Bronco Bianchi Ham Burrill Ralston Dunlop Speedy Formby Hurrican Harvey Crazy Hutchins Winks Rice Then, later on there was Crocky Rawding and an old friend of this Forum, who doesn't seem to have been mentioned in a while, Crusty Pye.

I seem to remember the original idea was so that the helmet colours matched the four colours on the Sky Remote. They were going to introduce interactive features to utilise this. But it never happened.

I think Pearcey has put his finger on the problem. Yes, in one way the double points rule did make for a more exciting finish but to many people that feeling is dissipated by the unfairness of it all so that excitement is replaced by resentment and you come away from it all not feeling exhilarated as you should but feeling sorry for the team that came second or that it's a joke. So the main reason for introducing the joker rule in the end becomes totally negated and we would all be better off without it.

Tony Millard might not have known how many points each rider had or their position in the meeting or Grand Prix overall, but he does know the ages of all the riders. Now, I ask you which is more important? Riders' ages obviously.

I know exactly what you mean. The late Ernie Hancock had an enormous collection of speedway related material, ephemera, trophies, etc. His whole house was stuffed full of it. It nearly all went to the dump. I think Terry Stone managed to salvage a couple of trophies but by the time he got round there it had nearly all gone. I have nothing against private collectors per se - I collect stuff myself - but please remember to leave instructions about what to do with it in case of your death....the Speedway Museum is a good place to think of......

It can be a bit of a nightmare but basically, speedyguy is probably right. Wright Wood photographs are the copyright of John Somerville and Alf Weedon photographs are the copyright of Retro Speedway. I believe both own some other copyrighted photos as well. If I borrow photographs from someone for inclusion in a book I always acknowledge them, even if they don't actually own the copyright. More modern photos can be a bit of a problem. I have twice used photos which photographers have complained (after the book's been published) are their photographs and therefore their copyright, but, in both cases, there was nothing on the back to show who owned them. I came to amicable agreements with both. I have never encountered any problems with using a scan of a programme cover - in fact I'd never thought about it until I read your posting, but I suppose technically they are copyright too. It's probably ok to use programmes from defunct tracks but I suppose, in theory, tracks that are still going (like Swindon) could claim copyright, but I would think it unlikely they would make an issue out of it.

Yes. This Sunday at Upminster Tithe Barn Museum from 10:00 onwards.

He was born on 17 November 1927 making him 81.

So sorry to hear this, Ross. I know you have been expecting the worst for some time but it doesn't make it any easier. I remember Eric well of course from his days at New Cross. He came out or retirement to ride for the Rangers and immediately got back to the sort of form he enjoyed in his Wembley days. He was always able to match the best of the opposition teams and it was unfortunate he had to miss out on the 1960 final through having to return home early. I would also like to thank you and Eric for the entertaining stories you have been posting on Eric's speedway days. They have been amusing, touching and full of interesting sidelights on that period of speedway in this country. My sincere condolences to Eric's family and to you too, Ross, as I know you have become very close to Eric over the last few months.

I have just returned from the latest Speedway Museum Committee meeting and we have decided to hold the 2010 Celebration of Speedway at the Museum again. It will be on 21 February. Following the amount of positive feedback we had after this year's event it was felt it would be in everyone's interests, stall holders and visitors, to hold it at the Museum again rather than High Beech. I will give more details nearer to the event, but it is hoped it will be at least as big as last year and hopefully bigger. It will probably also include the official opening of the new extension to the Museum.

It'll either be in microfilm or they will have the actual papers. Have you tried? They are both easy to get copied.

Now you're just being silly.

This is John Chaplin's reply: "As far as I know, Louis Lawson's name was Louis Lawson. I think there was a myth years ago that Louis Lawson was not his real name, but I interviewed him and there was never any suggestion that he was called anything else."

Just had this response from John Chaplin: "As far as I know, Louis Lawson's name was Louis Lawson. I think there was a myth years ago that Louis Lawson was not his real name, but I interviewed him and there was never any suggestion that he was called anything else."

I don't recall it. I'll ask John Chaplin who wrote the obituary in the Speedway Star.

That's ok. And thank you for correcting me over Harry Rogers riding for the Daggers as well.

Dagenham re-opened on 9 October 1938. Morian Hansen took over microphone duties for the night while Stan Greatrex and Ernie Evans were pit marshalls. On 16 October Dagenham raced West Ham Hawks. The season ended on 6 November.

Harry Rogers, who was indeed a local youngster, died on 19 May during a special evening meeting (Dagenham normally raced in the afternoon). I think it unlikely he would actually have been in the Dagnenham team. At the time he died the Daggers had only ridden two league matches. I don't know about David Jackson

I think it probably is because the article does mention that he is "now at Southampton" Yes, it does seem a bit surprising he was left out, especially as he did come second in the 1936 Silver Cup. I believe he was the only ever-present in Yarmouth's team in 1948 as well. Yes, and Challis too. I'm not sure if he rode for Dagenham in 1938. He certainly rode for them in 1936 (in friendlies).

I'm not sure if he rode in the league in 1938. In 1936 however, Arthur Warwick set up a training school at Dagenham and instituted a Silver Cup for the best novice of the season. This was raced for every week with points being accumulated each week. Roy Duke came second to Frank Hodgson in this. In 1939, the Speedway News published a list of riders who had been "discovered" at Dagenham. He does not feature on that list, which was: Frank Hodgson, Doug Wells, Jim Baylais, Nobby Stock, Malcolm Craven, Alan Smith, Eric French, Dick Harris, Crusty Pye, Dick Geary, Aussie Powell, Ernie Pawson, Fred Tuck, Jim Boyd, Alf Kain, Benny King, Alex Gray and George Craig.

Rye House entered the league late in the season and Dagenham/Romford withdrew when Dagenham shut down for a while towards the end of the season. Dagenham's closure was the main reason the league was never completed.

The full results of the league (after extensive research at the Newspaper Library, Colindale) are as follows: Dagenham 39 Eastbourne 44 Dagenham 39 Easbourne 43 Dagenham 44 Romford 39 Dagenham 56 Romford 26 Dagenham 26 Rye House 56 Dagenham 49 Smallford 33 Eastbourne 57 Dagenham 27 Eastbourne 44 Dagenham 39 Eastbourne 53 Romford 23 Eastbourne 56 Rye House 27 Eastbourne 46 Rye House 34 Eastbourne 55 Smallford 28 Eastbourne 51 Smallford 32 Romford 40 Dagenham 43 Romford 46 Eastbourne 33 Romford 26 Rye House 56 Romford 40 Smallford 42 Rye House 29 Eastbourne 52 Rye House 44 Smallford 39 Smallford 55 Eastbourne 27 Smallford 51 Rye House 33 The rest of the matches were not run and the league was never completed. Dagenham's leading riders in the league were Frank Hodgson (captain), Jim Baylais, Crusty Pye and Nobby Stock. Jack Tidbury was Romford' star rider. The Smallford team was Doug Wells (captain), Archie Windmill, Ken Tidbury, Percy Brine, Dick Geary, Charlie Appleby, Steve Bullivant, Harry Bower, Bob Wells and Cyril Brine.

Many supporters of the International Brigade were not card carrying communists or even communist sympathisers as such, they were ordinary decent people who saw how evil Hitler and the Nazis were and knew that it was time to take a stand against them. (Something apparently neither you nor Fay Taylour do (did).) The Spanish Civil War gave them that opportunity. This was especially true of the Jewish community who could see what was happening in Germany and what would happen elsewhere if the Nazis succeeded. You didn't need to be a Communist Jew to know what would happen to you. Are you suggesting that all the people who opposed Mosley at Cable Street for example were Communists?

You may be right. I was merely pointing out that none of the websites you referred Parsloes too advanced your argument at all.