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And yet he still increased his lead....

True. But he could well have won all three pre-War finals. Don't get me started! I'd rather let you drive me round London than read any more of Dr Belton's books!

Food for thought here... If the GP had been introduced in 1936 instead of 1995 and the GP had re-started immediately after the War, how many titles would Bluey Wilkinson, Vic Duggan, Jack Young, Ove Fundin and Ivan Mauger have won (for example).

We shouldn't forget Cordy Milne. Hot favourite to win the 1939 Championship which was cancelled four days before it was due to be held owing to the outbreak of war.

Hilary Buchanan, Cec Brown, Sid Chambers, Fred Cooper, Clem Cort, Dudley Cox, Les Dearth, Dank Ewen, Del Forster, Bert Gerrish, Jack Kidwell, John Leete, Fred Osborne, Alf Sawford, Mart Seiffert, Eddie Slade-Jones, Stan Spencer, Jimmy Stevens, Alf Summersby, Rube (Sonny) Wilson plus Jim Kempster and Vic Huxley after Star riders were allowed in. Cort, Foster and Spencer also appeared for Harringay.

Tom Farndon, who sadly died the year before the World Championship started.

Hmmm...That's a good question, frenchy. I think it got caught between two stools...or two books. When I wrote Speedway in the South East, Robert Bamford's Speedway in the Thames Valley was in production and I thought that he had included it in his book, so I left it alone. Had I realised he hadn't included it I would have covered it. I'm not really sure now why I should have thought that, so I suppose I would have to admit it was probably a mistake on my part not to include it in Speedway in the South East.

The price of that copy must have galvanised the publishers in to action as they have just emailed me to say they intend to reprint the book. Time to correct the two mistakes and two omissions in there.....

As far as I know that was his real name.

Stamford Bridge: Frank Arthur, Wal Phillips, Gus Kuhn... Lea Bridge: Jimmy Stevens, Stew Fairbairn, Alf Foulds, Reg Stanley, Howie Osment, Harold Hastings, Alec Slow, Charlie Spinks West Ham: Tiger Stevenson, Bluey Wilkinson, Tommy Croombs, Arthur Westwood, Allen Kilfoyle, Bert Jones, Don Durrant Harringay: Vic Huxley, Colin Watson, Eric Spencer, Stan Spencer, Alf Sawford, Will Dennis, Jack Kidwell, Lou Burger, Howard Traynor, Geo Preston, Ron Thompson, Ben Unwin. High Beech: Jack Barnett, Syd Edmonds, Phil Bishop, George Bishop, Stan Baines, Stan Taylor, Charlie King May I suggest you invest in copies of "Speedway in London" and "Speedway in the South East"? All the information you ever wanted to know is in those two books...or, at least, the above line-ups are!

Well, what an investment the book turned out to be. Anyone with a copy should cash in now! See http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0...;condition=used

Save the review, speedyguy, you can use it again when our Tom Farndon book comes out next February.

Well I can tell you who rode for Wembley, Crystal Palace and Coventry in 1930: Wembley: Jack Ormston Colin Watson Stan Catlett Harry Whitfield Arthur Atkinson George Greenwood Buster Frogley Crystal Palace: Roger Frogley Triss Sharp Ron Johnson Clem Mitchell Joe Francis Wally Lloyd Jack Barrett Harry Shepherd Coventry: Jack Parker Norman Parker George Allbrook John Deeley Lew Lancaster Tiny Timms Bill Stanley Cecil Walker Tom Farndon How's that for a start?

The results of all the matches are printed in Robert Bamforth's "Speedway - The Pre-War Years". That is just the results, not all the scorers. All the full results are certainly in the Speedway News for 1930. There is no mystery about them.

I don't even know you, do I?

Yes, but that's the problem. Who else would run the event? If someone comes along to do it, fine. We had this discussion last year with people saying we ought to have an event at High Beech in February, but no-one came along to volunteer to organise it.

If (and it seems to me a big if) someone came along and said they would like to organise an event at High Beech in February, I am certain (as we did in fact discuss it) the Speedway Museum would be happy to rearrange our event for later in the year. So, if you are serious about organising an event at High Beech, Ray, I'm sure we could come to some accommodation. Though, to be fair to everyone, we would need to know fairly soon before much effort has gone in to the organisation of our event.

It doesn't make any difference. You don't have to ask permission.

The same rules apply to the rider as anyone else publishing a photograph. The rider could certainly be sued for breach of copyright even if the photo is of himself. It's similar to the example I gave of The British Museum above.

No-one because it's more than 70 years since the photographer's death.

Oh yes, so it has. I've just realised I mentioned some of those above over five years ago!

Presumably if the photographer sold the photograph with copyright to the magazine the magazine holds the copyright. It can't revert back to the photographer's family after he dies. If you wanted to reproduce the photograph you would have to get permission from the magazine not from the person (company) who now has the photograph. In fact they would actually need to get permission themselves if they wished to reproduce the photograph. When the law was changed some years ago, we ran into a similar problem at The British Museum. We sold photographs to members of the public and sometimes gave permission to these people to publish the photograph in a book or magazine. Because they had published the photograph and we hadn't they actually had the copyright on future reproduction rights and not us, even though it was our photo of one of our objects. We then had to then make it clear in any agreement we made that permission was for a one off reproduction and did not confer any rights on the publisher.

Of course, going back to the early days, you had riders like: Slider Shuttleworth Sig Schlamm Riskit Riley Hurrican Hampson Acorn Dobson Buzz Hibberd Champ Upham Cyclone Smith Bronco Bianchi Ham Burrill Ralston Dunlop Speedy Formby Hurrican Harvey Crazy Hutchins Winks Rice Then, later on there was Crocky Rawding and an old friend of this Forum, who doesn't seem to have been mentioned in a while, Crusty Pye.

I seem to remember the original idea was so that the helmet colours matched the four colours on the Sky Remote. They were going to introduce interactive features to utilise this. But it never happened.

I think Pearcey has put his finger on the problem. Yes, in one way the double points rule did make for a more exciting finish but to many people that feeling is dissipated by the unfairness of it all so that excitement is replaced by resentment and you come away from it all not feeling exhilarated as you should but feeling sorry for the team that came second or that it's a joke. So the main reason for introducing the joker rule in the end becomes totally negated and we would all be better off without it.