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I have a filled in programme for England v. Sweden at Hackney on 21st June (not 20th) 1974. Jansson scored 6; Selmosson, 0

Anyway, where were you both? Did we meet in a previous life!?

No problem, Robbie. It would be interesting if anyone else does have a filled in programme. Also, we've discovered that the meeting might have been unique anyway, what with 19 helmet covers coming off and all four riders finishing in every race but one, it was well worth looking at!

Yes, I was at the meeting and it's my own filled in programme.

The times I have are: Heat 14: 77.4 Heat 15: 75.6 Heat 16: 76.0 Heat 17: 76.2 Heat 18: 79.0 Heat 19: 78.0 Heat 20: 77.2 Don't you think it a bit strange that all the times you have are .0something?

My programme has the second half times in tenths as well.

Had another look. The only other thing I can see is that nobody fell throughout the entire meeting. P.S. and if Barry Crowson hadn't had engine failure in the last race all four riders would have finished in every race.

I was there and just looked up my programme. The main thing I seem to have noted down at the time was that there were 19 losses of helmet covers during the evening.

I am so sorry to hear this news. Jimmy also rode for New Cross in 1960 and 1961. He was my first-ever favourite rider. He top scored for New Cross against Norwich at the first meeting I ever saw on 11 May 1960, beating the seemingly hitherto unbeatable Aub Lawson in heat 10, after Eric Williams and Split Waterman had failed to do so. His 11 points that night played a major part in helping New Cross record their first official win of the season after four straight defeats. Until New Cross closed down at the end of 1961 he remained my favourite.

No chance, Tom. Just ask falcace how much money we make every year out of our book. This year it was almost enough for a cup of tea each.

No, I'm afraid nothing has reached the dizzy heights of my earlier books in the days when there weren't too many speedway books around. My first speedway book, "Speedway in East Anglia", is by far my biggest seller, followed by "Speedway in London", which reached no. 3 in the Sunday Times Sports Book charts. "Speedway's Classic Meetings", which I wrote with Chris Broadbent (falcace), continues to sell most copies on a continuing ongoing basis.

"Out of the Frying Pan" has just been reprinted - now into its third run. If anyone would like to buy a copy please contact me.

Preston 1930: Ham Burrill (captain),Tommy Price, Jack Chiswell, Joe Abbott, George Reynard, Claude Rye. Manchester White City 1930: Max Grosskreutz, Wilf McClure, Frank Charles, Walter Hull, Fred Strecker, Cyril Wilcox, E.O. Spence. Leicester Super 1930: Arthur Sherlock (captain), Hal Herbert, Alec Bowerman, Nev Wheeler, George Marsh, Bert Spencer, Harold Stevens, Freddie Hore. Edinburgh 1930: Drew McQueen, George McKenzie, Syd Parsons, Len Stewart, Gordon Spalding...... Glasgow 1930: Billy Galloway, Col Stewart.................

Over to you, Jack. You organise it and I'll be there.

What Hackney heritage at the site? The Olympic Stadium is not where Hackney used to ride.

Coventry: John Deeley, P Elwell, Wilmot Evans, TOM FARNDON, 'Dilly' Gittins, Lew Lancaster, Cyril Lord, Stan Mauger, Norman Parker, Bert Perrigo, George Povey, Arthur Saunders, Arthur Sheene, Bill Stanley, Arthur 'Tiny' Tims, 'Bunny' Wilcox, Fred Wilkinson. Jack Parker was their 'Star' rider. Hall Green: George Allbrook, Tommy Cross, Joe Dallison, Jimmy Gent, Arthur Johnson,Cyril Locke, Les Patrick, Arthur Sherlock, Bill Stanley, Cyril Taft, Harry Taft, Arthur Westwood, 'Bunny' Wilcox, Nev Wheeler Perry Barr: Ivan Anslow, Bill Ashcroft, George Britt, Joe Dallison, Joe Hassell, Arthur Johnson, Johnny Lloyd, Wally Lloyd, Cyril Locke, Tim Reid, Geoff Siddaway Southampton: Cecil Barrow, Frank Bond, Cecil Bounds, Reg Bounds, Vic Collins, Tommy Cullis, Don Durant, Clarrie Eldridge, Jimmy Hayes, Eric Lister, Ernie Rickman, Col Stewart, Albert Wakerley.

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Harringay were Canaries, Tigers, Racers New Cross were Lambs, Tamers, Rangers

What John meant was that the trophy awarded to Oxford was an imposter. Thanks for the info and pics, speedwayondisc, that's brilliant.

I presume it's the REAL original National Trophy and not the one given to Oxford in 1964, which was the pre-War World Championship Trophy.

If you'd ever read that brilliant book, "Speedway in the South East", you'd see that Rochester is mentioned as a Kent league speedway team. By the way, did you know there was speedway at Rochester in 1931 and 32 as well? though not in any league.

Latest from John: "Let's get this straight. There were never two National Trophies - only one, the Daily Mail one. "I believe that there was a rather deep plinth on the original World Championship trophy, which would have contained the names of the pre-war winners. I have inspected it at a British Championship event, and the original plinth is not there, so no original names, though all the other markings on the upper trophy remain. "The trouble with the BSPA is that they do not seem to have any sense of history. Not only that, they don't seem to care at all."

Another email from John: "The Daily Mail National Trophy IS valued at £30,000. I had it in my hand and the security man was on my elbow. I was told by Lord Rothermere himself so have no reason to doubt it. "The so-called 'national trophy' given to Oxford in 1964 was not the National Trophy at all but a 'league championship' trophy. It was/is in fact the original 1936 World Championship trophy of which both Jack Milne and Bluey Wilkinson were given a replica (I have seen them both) and I remember Jack was very put out because he didn't get the full sized trophy. Now that trophy is given as the British Championship trophy which, in my opinion, is sacrilege. If you like I can put pictures up of the 1936 and 1938 presentations - if I knew how to do it."

I've just received this email from John Chaplin: "The Daily Mail still has the original National Trophy. I managed to persuade them to bring it out when I made the first of the History Of Speedway videos. We filmed in the Mail buiding and a security man was always within arms length because they told me the trophy is worth £30,000. Then I almost got it on loan for the Barry Briggs museum at Doningto Park, but the plug was pulled on that as you know, so I never got it. I have continually tried to ask where the original trophies are. You may know that the one they foist on us as the British Championship trophy is actually the orginal World Championship trophy."

Yes, I think I was probably thinking more of 1960 and 61 than 1958. Youngie was still heat leader class but not the same class as he was in the early 50s. However, I did see him several times at New Cross during that period and I have to say I will never forget the two individual meetings he won towards the end of 1961 - the King of the South Cup and the Tom Farndon Memorial Trophy. To win both meetings he had to beat the Big 5 plus most of the other leading riders of the time. I felt it was a real privilege to see Youngie in those two meetings as he rode as he must have done at his peak in the early 50s.