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Think you will have to sort out the venues for those first Rob

I always think of Max Bygraves,Val Doonican,Variety shows,Jessie Matthews,people who use bed posts as instruments,people who bash themselves over the head with trays,dancers in flesh coloured tights and spangly outfits,Topogigio,Max Wall,Peter Osgood,Harry Secombe and radio comedy shows where everyone has a northern accent......whenever i see the name Karl Denver.Never speedway Maybe i need help with that

It has been stated on the web that if Denmark only get one rider in the top 8 they are assured of 2 wildcard places.Then again,as i mentioned about a week ago,it was stated on Polish tv that if Harris failed to get through the GP Challenge then Tai would get a wildcard.......

A suggestion.....blimey he is the Devil incarnate

Absolutely 100% disagree.Olsen might not be everyones cup of tea at the moment,but the state of speedway in GB can't be blamed on him.Look at the promoters who have run the sport into the ground since well.......i would say the 1940s ....but the recent promoters also have done a fair bit of damage And anyway,i think he has payed England back enough by continually giving Nicholls a wildcard into the GPs

Always good for a laugh these threads about the British WC.This years looks to be one of the funniest ever at this rate

According to the FIM President the GPs must expand into other countries.GP future

"Could".....You are somehow forgetting the young Danes in all of that Just wait until LiGlad starts racing more and more abroad next year to see what impact he has on the speedway world.I imagine he will be challenging Darcy for honours in the U21s for a few years,without the likes of Mikkel Michelsen and Mikkel B.Jensen hard on their tales

Not so happy with Zorro and Hampel getting through.Ok,Hampel might be there or there abouts,but is about as interesting as a bopok on carburetor adjustments Then you can't always expect the top 16 riders to be the most exciting.Very glad to see Holder in though

Or qualifying......by managing to get through the qualifying process.Whether that be this year or next,they have qualified by the rules set out in advance.You call it tamata i call it tomata....or something

QUOTE (Robbie B @ Sep 16 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As for Argentina, I know that speedway has been running their but not in massive (ie having teams in World Cups or other major International competitions) for many years, and long may it continue I say. Funny you mention this,because there was a rumour on the net a few days back that Argentina have applied to enter next years SWC.Whether there is any truth or whether they have much chance of being accepted i don't know.

You are right about the 5 man teams.Of course it depends on the make-up,but i prefered the 6 man teams they used to use.At least then you could have Nicki and Puk in the team against Kenneth and Jesper B for instance.Now if you get Nicki against Ulamek you can tell the outcome of all their encounters.Teams without 'A' category riders probably produce better quality meetings,but then there are no stars for the crowd.But with little variation you will generally get one or two riders that are much better than the rival they meet so often in the meeting........Saying that,i have seen some good meetings this year.And i am already looking forward to seeing Mikkel Michelsen,Mikkel B.Jensen next year,alongside LiGlad and Lasse Bjerre.....

QUOTE (Robbie B @ Sep 16 2009, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He may now have his critics with regards to the speedway GP series, but you can’t dispute his overall influence to Danish speedway for the last forty-odd years. Is anyone disputing that fact?Certainly not me.I was just stating that i thought Danish speedway would exist without Olsen,just nowhere near the success they have had.You then asked for names of top Danish riders and i gave them to you.I think if someone was ranked no.4 in the world,that enables them to be classed as "top" Up to that point how many "top" riders did Russia have?But speedway still existed.And how many "top" riders has Argentina had?But speedway has existed for donkeys years there as well.

QUOTE (Robbie B @ Sep 16 2009, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You say thar there was a number of top class Danish riders before him, I wish you could would name them. Just two for the moment.There is an excellent Danish speedway history site.But this early in the morning i can't find it I'll try later for you Morian Hansen Denmarks first World Finalist.....and look at the World Rankings for 1960 here

I agree with all that has been said about Ole...apart from the statement that speedway in Denmark might not exist without him.I am fairly sure it would,just not anywhere near the level of success it has had since Ole made it to the top. That is all i was saying .............

QUOTE (Robbie B @ Sep 15 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That’s a terrific tribute to Ole, who was a brilliant rider in his day. He made an enormous contribution to speedway, especially in home land. Without him Danish speedway might not exist. Think you are going a bit too far to suggest that.Ole was as everyone has said a terrific rider.Great to watch around Plough Lane and i was at Wembley in 75.But there were a few top class danish riders before Ole came on the scene and no doubt there would have been a few come along if Ole hadn't had the success he did.But his contribution to Speedway in Denmark is never the less imense.He was always one of my favourite away riders in his colourful leathers.........but to me he is more a Wolves rider.All my pics of him are in his Wolves bodycolours,i think

Still can't believe they trott out the old "The track was totally different in practice" stuff.Did anyone last night?But the riders know what to expect.Emil showed that you can race on any track with the right attitude.Or do we still think he has something extra power wise that enables his to pass like that?The Danish riders should be used to those sort of tracks anyway.But look at Hans.He is following in Bjarnes footsteps in being fairly crap in the GPs.He is performing way below his potential.Olsen can't be blamed for that surely?And Nicki should have won from the outside against Walasek.Just Walasek's slight loss of control blocked Nicki.So it wasn't all so biased as it seemed.But then the livestream failed and i couldn't be bothered to find another.........so how the meeting panned out after heat 10 i don't know.But Emil looked favourite from those early heats and so it turned out.Crump is probably suffering from jitters,as he looks totally different lately to the early and middle part of the GP series.Olsen can't be blamed for that either

Interesting theory about Crump not even being in the 75 series.He was out injured in 73,but did comeback for the 73/74 Aussie season.But his scores against the British Lions were nothing to shout about and he didn't win the Aussie Championship.So maybe he would have missed out in the 74 quali series He flunked it in the British semi final that year big time

Sorry Norbold.It was early.But yes i agree at the time speedway was more cosmopolitan than the period just after the war and into the 50s.Not really sure when Poland got into speedway in a big way though.But Morian Hansen showed that the continentals could get amongst the points and speedway was being held in big stadiums in big cities to large crowds.Like i mentioned before somewhere,the Hamburg Dirt Track was the venue for the largest ever crowd at a European boxing match,when Max Schmeling fought there.

Yes,i agree.Great little track.Not much in the way of facilities though.But i was there back in 2005 or so for the Sweden U21 v Denmark U21 meeting with riders like Klindt,Madsen,Hougaard,Forsberg,Kling.....Not much in the way of a crowd either.I think there couldn't have been more than a 100 people for this meeting!.Always meant to get back there.....But it isn't the track that held the World Final back in the 60s.Where was that?

And i think Paris would have had a good chance of a GP.It was running it's own World Final during the 30s.I think back then in the 20s and 30s speedway was pretty international.The riders would travel around Europe.Then after the war it seemed to because of the war that all went until the 50s again.Ginger Lees,Eric Langton,Max Grosskreutz and Dicky Case are among the riders that raced in Hamburg and presumably also in Copenhagen

Ok.Sorry.You have your moans already prepared regardless of whether you see the GP or not

I think Copenhagen and Hamburg have a good call for hosting GPs in the 1928 onwards season.Hamburg was accomodating 25,000+ crowds at the time and being run by the Preston promoter,who was also running Copenhagen.Local rider Alfred rumrich must have been in with a chance of a WC

I have a visitor on sunday and if i play my cards right i hope to be on the red button after an hour

Emphatically yes Beat Emil by 45 years to the title