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What about John.L.Sullivan?Jack Johnson?Jesse Owens?etc,etc,etc

Trouble is though,speedway has never really as far as i remember attracted a big motorbike following.I was a bike rider until a couple of years ago,but was one of only a very few that ever turned up at a speedway meeting.I don't remember big biker attendances in England and in Germany + Denmark it is also a handful out of a crowd of 1,000+.The only meeting i know that you get maybe 100 bikes at is Brokstedt on a May bank holiday.Still,out of 4,000 people 100 bikers is probably a market too small to invest in

Guess you must be wrong......the first post stated that it was from the 3 match series in Poland and then evidence was given for those 3 tests,so i don't know why we then get onto the British held event? Would be an idea to get in touch with Brian Collins as he might just have the programmes from the Polish meetings

Well i would put all three higher up than quite a few that have been mentioned.Nicholls won the Czech Golden Helmet,which at the time was a big meeting with a world class line-up.Richardson was World U21 champ and Harris did win the British GP.Just on that i would put them up higher than probably half the riders being mentioned over the last day......Just my opinion though.But that is the way with these threads.Starts out fair enough,but then people seem to want to get their two-penneth worth in and you just end up with a list of riders.Half of which you wouldn't mention in the same category as Craven,Collins or Lee.......

Lol.Seems like it,as Nicholls,Harris and Richardson can easily be compared to a number of the names now getting mentioned.Start by talking about Peter Craven and end up mentioning Evitts,Doncaster and the Grahame Bros

Haha....just knew either you or Trees would try and bring a negative take on this news

If you're looking for British League averages then Frigbo's site is always worth a look http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mriders&action=display&thread=1811

Haven't read all the thread,but i fail to see why Cardiff having rats is any advantage.I am sure we could get some in London as well

Absolute super service to provide not only Russian commentary,but an english one as well

Think the same link as yesterday.Yup,working ok for me

Coverage of the GP from Ufa is just starting now..... http://forum.speedway.ru/index.php/topic/13799-%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0-2012-%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B-%D1%83%D1%84%D0%B0-11-12-%D1%84%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8F1200%D0%BC%D1%81%D0%BA/

Seems Franky Zorn is on his way back home and will not compete in the next GP's in Ufa.Svensson has the wild card for Ufa,so fellow countryman Martin Leitner who is the next non-Russian reserve takes Franky's place. You have to wonder just what sort of set up he has and what sort of sponsorship really is behind the big names on his bike.Might be very unlucky with his equipment,but it does seem a bit poor.Seem to remember last season he also went back early during the Santa Cup in Sweden.Poor couple of years for Franky and the western riders in general what with the injuries to Bauer and Klabo and last year Aakko .Would be great to see this muted project in North America along with ex World Champ Anatoly Bondarenko looking to do a training school there as well

That is one of the problems with the net.Most sites are just copying info from the one source.So any mistake spreads like wild fire.I never look a Aktuellspeedway,and rarely look at speedway-forum.de which you quoted on the night.And even Ian, who posted the results and stated Niedermaier was through obviously copied the wrong results, as he had Svensson above Niedermaier ,when he obviously wasn't or he would have qualified

Yes,but at least not as often as the ones complaining about the Speedway Star

A look back at last season from an Austrian view http://www.servustv.com/cs/Satellite/Article/Die-Sportdokumentation-011259408924487

The commentator says "Raniszewski said during training that he didn't want to ride because the track was unsafe.Racing on a track surrounded by concrete and steel is a game of life and death(or playing with death).People lives are cheaper than safety measures" I think is pretty much how he sums it up

AchConkers posted those results the day after.The world and his uncle knew by then.You wanted to be argumentative on the night.I reckon your sauna had packed up and you had no beer in the house And you wouldn't expect talk pre meeting at Sanok about Russians really.There were only two in the meeting and it would have been some sort of disaster to expect them not to qualify.If the Federation quota was know beforehand which it must have been then it was fairly easy to see that two Russians from each quali would get through and Makarov being track reserve wouldn't be in the running to qualify even if he got a max.Poor rulings imo.But i can see why they want to limit the Russian riders....or shall we say,give the non-Russians a better chance.I think from talks i am having that even some Russiand realise they need to help strengthen other countries and expand the sport to make it strong for everyone

Awful.....pretty damning commentary at the end as well....

Er....you've lost me.What are you on about????What did Conkers get "pretty much spot on"?And what disqualified Russians?I saidKononov was out and Niedermaier was in.You wanted to disagree or wait for the committee....

Vitali Khomitsevitch will be the wild card for the first GP in Krasnogorsk.So no Kononov + Svensson

Sanok Cup results 1.N.Krasnikov (Russia) 2.D.Kołtakov (Russia) 3. Danil Ivanov (Russia) 4. D.Khomitsevitch(Russia) 5. V.Khomitsevitch (Russia) 6. Per Olof Serenius (Sweden) 7. Gregory Knapp (Poland) 8. Jan Klatovsky (Czech republic) 9-10. Robert Henderson (Sweden) 9-10. Martin Leitner (Austria) 11-12. Paul Strugała (Poland) 11-12. Fredrik Johansson (Sweden) 13-14. P.Klauza(Czech Republic) 13-14. Fredrik Olsson (Sweden) 15-16. Jo Saetre (Norway) 15-16. Simon Reitsma (Holland) 17-18. Miroslaw Daniszewski (Poland) 17-18. Jouni Seppänen (Finland) 19-20. Claude Gadeyne (France) 19-20. Ronny Haering (Switzerland) 21. Peter Hejnowski (Poland) 1. Daniszewski, Klauza, Gadeyne 2. Serenius, Strugala, Olsson 3.Reitsma, Haering, Hejnowski 4. D. Khomitsevitch, Kołtakov, V.Khomitsevitch, Seppänen 5. Seppänen, Gadeyne, Hejnowski 6. V.Khomitsevitch, Olsson 7. Kołtakov, Strugala, Reitsma, Daniszewski 8. D. Khomitsevitch, Serenius, Klauza, Haering 9. Olsson, Reitsma, Seppänen (w / su), Haering (f) 10. V.Khomitsevitch, Klauza, Daniszewski, Gadeyne 11. Kołtakov, Serenius, Knapp, Johansson 12. D.Khomitsevitch, Ivanov, Henderson, Strugala 13. Krasnikov, Leitner, Olsson, Klauza 14. V.Khomitsevitch, Klatovsky, Saetre, Reitsma 15. Knapp, Strugala, Olsson, Reitsma 16. Henderson, Johansson, Klauza, Saetre (d4) 17. Krasnikov, Kołtakov, Ivanov, Klatovsky 18. D.Khomitsevitch,V.Khomitsevitch, Serenius, Leitner 19. Ivanov, Knapp, Leitner, Johansson 20. Serenius, Klatovsky, Henderson, Strugala (f) 21. Krasnikov, Ivanov, V.Khomitsevitch, Klatovsky (f) 22. D.Khomitsevitch, Kołtakov, Serenius, Knapp B-Final 23. V.Khomitsevitch, Serenius, Knapp, Klatovsky A-Final 24. Krasnikov, Kołtakov, Ivanov, D.Khomitsevitch

Well of course up until Buzz Burrows came along Ronnie was one of,if not the most naturally talented riders of the modern era.Probably too talented in a way and as he say's he didn't have to work hard for the results.It was all a bit too easy and he then later lacked that work hard mentality that "lesser" riders like Briggo + Ivan had to have to achive what they did.Guess his enthusiasm waned and he looked to auto racing.Some riders or sportspeople in general are so tunnel visioned on being no.1.Ove,Ole,Ivan and i would even say Egon Müller when you hear him talk about himself.......Ronnie didn't have that same attitude to speedway

Sounded very promising the American(who was that?Galvin?)talking about starting the sport in the US + Canada.Caught me by surprise in the break and only caught a bit of it.But i guess he said 5 tracks in the States and 2 in Canada.Links in with Anatoli Bondarenko wanting to hold training schools in Canada and the US this December as well.Hope that project comes to fruition

Been impressed with both Knapp + Henderson

Even better now.They are doing the semi's + final again because some riders were in the wrong race.