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But were they the only tv company showing the SWC?Why wouldn't a Polish or Swedish or Danish tv company have some say?

The Danes were right though....and Lemon making himself out to be a right lemon laughing and saying he thought Watt had engine trouble.......it just showed the sport up to be a joke....

What Wackie said :t:

You are getting away from the point here.Of course in individual competition someone can help someone else out.It is unfair,but hard to stop.Same as average manipulation.But this rule actually is there to disadvantage the better team(s).Now anyway as we don't have a one day world final the chances of helping someone become world champ are very minute .Only in the GP qualis could this still be an obvious problem.We have probably all heard about buying heats to become world champ and that is one very big advantage of the GPs.It would also be super if the world team champs would always be the best team and not the one who used a joker to beat the best team-luckily this year the best team did win

Unbelievable.....you want an exciting finish just have one heat or after 19 heats scrap all the points and make ita last heat decider.....or make it that the team in front can't score any and all the other teams can use a joker to get enough points to enable them to win.You are happy every time....unbelievable!!!

Personally not outraged that they were trying to win,just find it farcical that they have to lose to try to ensure that,rather than just going out and winning heats.That is what the rule does and it is unfair that not all teams have the chance to use it.It penalises a team who go out and want to win every heat possible.In a way it encourages a team to under perform and what sport should do that?Crazy

Well certainly agree with you on cricket......still not sure your analogy gives an advantage to the worst team though or punishes the better team Where an advantage is gained there or in any two leg game is in the draw.Just like Sweden had a big advantage over say Poland who are probably or definitely a better team

Ha ha.....i think you have to come up with a rule in football or cricket that gives an advantage to a team that are behind or worse than their opponents.Cricket is strange anyway and might just have such a rule.No idea about that.All i can really see in football is the team that have just had a goal scored against them then have the advantage of starting the match in the centre rather than from their goal where the ball ended.Whereas Basketball for instance i think re-start the game from the goalline or whatever it is called

Don't think your examples are the same really.What they are showing is tactics within fair rules.What we are seeing now is tactics to stop an unfair rule being implemented or try to get it used.The rule is unfair as it helps worse teams and punishes the best team.Crap.Scrap it

And of course what i was saying about a good team and team manager getting more out of riders than was expected,you see the evidence right there over the past week.Hardly anyone was expecting those sort of performances from the young Danes.They rode above expectation........if only we had a manager or riders that could do that

Crap....i understand there are financial implications here,but i just think speedway is getting ridiculous with all this seeding lark.Fully understand it with lesser competitions,but with the top meetings particularly the SWC it will be absolutely farcical to seed the Czechs into the final.It is bad enough if we always have to have an Italian or Croatian(Pavliv basically) etc in the world championship....*shakes head* even worse that so far it is deemed neccesary to have a undeserving token Brit in Let's not get too far away from the fact there was some very good speedway tonight.Well done to the riders and track staff for that-

Said that is what i heard days ago and hoped BFD's rumour was right,not mine.....

Justice done....best team won......scrap the joker and let's not have home team straight into final either next year

Yeees....Ligladdddddd

Hope Holder finishes last now.....

agree 100%....absolutely crap rule.....good for Denmark

Leave Shovlar out of it eh......Brilliant from the Danish kids whatever happens

Actually if you and pirateandi look i think Phil says the rain stopped at 14:45,not 14:15 Ok guess no apology as you are eating humble pie....no probs.On with the meeting we hope with no rain problems

I don't believe everything i am told by Phil....after all he did say the Danes would be dropping all experienced riders except Nicki,despite the Danish manager saying otherwise....and as we have seen Niels has been in all Danish teams

But that looks like it was posted before 14:00 and according toa lot of people it hammered down at 14:15 :D

Bit harsh.Mr Rising can sometimes make a decent post i think :P

I was talking from our point of view.Sure there is a big rivalry between Sweden and Denmark.But from an English point of view we only have a rivalry with Australia of those finalists really.And none of Germany,Scotland or France for instance have qualified so that is our other main rivals .Guess Finland might have a big dislike against Russia,so any Finns here might be hoping for anyone but Russia,Sweden and maybe Denmark Then it is a simple choice

Think it is more down to BFD :P No,seriously,you've never heard of the rivalry between England and Australia?????And as there isn't really much traditional rivalry between Russia,Sweden or Denmark it is understandable such comments are made.Same as when Scots say "anyone but England" It's tradition

Like i said he might very well be the best available.But he doesn't get more out ofthe riders than you would expect.This was the biggest meeting of the season for some of these guys and do you see evidence that they were riding above themselves?Middlo came across as if he didn't know what was happening at one time.Saying they had asked Woffinden what set-up he was using,but it wasn't working for the others.....cripes,these are very experienced riders and ex riders and their only solution to their problem was to ask the least experienced guy what he was doing and then they didn't know what to do from there.Not good enough at this level.If you think that is harsh ok,but for me that is just typical as towhy we just can't hack it at the top

Well i haven't seen people calling for Middlo to go....this year.Of course there have been plenty in the past.What i would say is it isn't acceptable for international riders to be as far off the pace as we were sometimes last night.Who is to blame for that?Is it down to the individuals or down to a combination of individual and team?Like i have said before a good team manager and team spirit tend to get more out ofthe riders than expected.Anyone can get what is expected out of a rider.My opinion is we don't have enough good riders and we don't have a good team manager at the moment.In his defence he may be the best available,which is sad both in terms of riders and manager