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Redcar v Workington, 12/ 4/2024 :- BSN Series.
iris123 replied to pvm's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
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Similarly the gypsies of English football, QPR are having a tough time and could drop down to the third tier yet again Bit of a yo-yo team, who made according to Wiki, 18 changes of ground, although obviously some back to an old ground !! Is this a record ? But did have a couple of spells at White City London
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Interesting to read the bit on early Danish racing, and what is one of the first purpose built motorcycle dirt track stadiums in Europe. The Glostrup stadium which opened on August 12th 1922. Interesting in many ways, but the importance maybe of an appearance of the US dirt track rider Paul Anderson in 1925. As mentioned on the Frank Arthur thread, he was also racing around this time in Australia. And it was also around this time that the 'American skid' style of braodsiding around the corners was described. So maybe seen in Denmark ? You could almost believe they had seen speedway/dirt track broadsiding from the cover of the opening meetings programme http://speedwaylife.com/danish-tracks/glostrup/ https://www.ebay.com/itm/266200848818
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Probably me personally. But i do find all this a bit disrespectful to a speedway rider and someone who lost their life serving their country. Just the same as i find the treatment of Morian Hansen, who has his own thread, shameful
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As the thread title states, he was treated shamefully. You would like to think it couldn't happen today, but we have recently seen with Afghan helpers, how appaling they were also treated. You would think though with Hansens medals and service in the RAF, which had a better reputation that the army really, he would have had a few important people in his corner, who could and should have slammed ther fist on a table or two and pulled some strings
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Workington v Berwick Border Trophy 31/03/24 3pm
iris123 replied to topaz325's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
I just don't think promoters work that way. Regardless of how successful or not Celina turns out to be, if some team needs a rider, in the ever decreasing market, and the best bet available is a female, then they will turn to her A young female finished 2nd in the junior event at Güstrow the other day. Who knows how her career turns out ? -
From Mechanic to the Dirt Track From an early age he is trained as mechanic and he is eventually employed by the Ford Motor Company. He earns the nickname Morian Hansen in this period; Morian is an old and depreciatory expression for a coloured person. As one story is told he was repairing a Ford T when carbon from the engine soiled his face. From this day on his colleagues called him “Morian.” Another story, told by him self in 1981, relates to the dirt of the dirt track. In the 1920’s Morian Hansen is involved in motor racing – primarily motor bikes, but also racing cars. This eventually brings him abroad. In the 1930’s he moves to England with his family for a career as professional dirt track rider (later known as speedway). Speed in the blood, he does not stick to the ground. In 1935 he receives training as pilot in the Hearts and Essex Flying Club at Broxbourne and he gets his certificate on 12 October 1935. Many of the British riders of the time take up flying in exactly this club. https://www.danishww2pilots.dk/profiles.php?person=35 https://po-bandzie.com.pl/zuzel-zuzlowy-forrest-gump-bohater-dunczyk-morian-hansen/
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What is revolutionary about this new bike, anyone ?
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Latvia: LEBEDEVS Andzejs, MIHAILOVS Olegs, KOSTIGOVS Jevgenijs, KOLODINSKIS Daniils, GUSTS Francis Germany: GROBAUER Valentin, RISS Erik, WÖLBERT Kevin, WASSERMANN Sandro, BLÖDORN Norick Sweden: THORSELL Jacob, LINDBÄCK Antonio, LINDGREN Fredrik, NILSSON Kim, HENRIKSSON Casper Ukraine: LEVISHYN Marko, KARPOV Andriy, MELNYCHUK Stanislav, LYSAK Vitalii, PARNITSKYI Nazar
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Cyril Maidment was one at Wimbledon
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Ok. I do remember someone on the forum explaining the gate. When or why it was changed etc. There were a couple of track staff who used to post on here. the post or two are probably buried in the forum vaults somewhere
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Wouldn't it have been the ther way around, as i thought the difference was because of complying with FIM regs ? Maybe introduced when Wimbledon hosted the Internationae ?
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Good to hear. I just wonder how Ray Grant got credited with the championship, especially as he was missing a good bit of the season due to injury. I wonder if he won something else ? I also came across a Mexico v California meeting. Though disappointed that the 'Mexico' team was just the US riders that had ventured down to race in Mexico, rather than any Mexican speedway riders
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A couple of days ago saw a US newspaper report from 1933 and Elder was also mentioned as world champion. So I guess something he was fond of telling people
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forty motorcycle racers vie tomorrow In the first daylight program ever held at the Long Beach Motospeedway. Eighteen races, including both scratch and handicap events, are scheduled, with “Sprouts” Elder, world champion, and Miny Wain, national champion, heading the entries which also include Ray Grant, Bo Lisman, Cordy Milne, Lammy Lamoreaux, Earl Farrand and Rusty Roberts. Elder and Wain will hook up in several of the events in starting their race for 1933 honors. Wain will be presented with the speedway trophy he won last year by Miss Glenda Farrell, motion picture star. August 1933 September, and i am not sure if this refers to the US championship. In the paper it talks about West side championship. But to me from the earlier paper about Lammy already having the title befre the last meeting had reached half way, means it was a GP style series, which ties in with this. I also can't believe that it was just down to 6 riders. And to me it looks like Puma has misunderstood that the scratch race final was the final for the title.... BYRD M'KINNEY, who grabbed the lead in the, championship a month ago, will face Wilbur Lamoreaux, Cordy M)lne, Miny Wain and Jack Milne to-. night in the races at Loyola. Motor Races ..Due Tonight .at Loyola speedway b?gin bearing down tonight in the race for the championship of the west side racing plant. Lammy" Lamoreaux, Burton Albrecht. Cordy Milne, Jack Milne, Miny Wain and. other hot shot speedsters are all here intent on passing Byrd McKinney, Who grabbed off the lead a month ago and has held it ever since. . Tonight's big drawing card is the three-way match race doubleheader" between Cordy Milne, .Wilbur Lamoreaux and Miny Wain for the "Undisputed championship - of Southern California. Milne will Jsattle Wain for two excursions around the fast and spectacular track, with Lamourcaux challenging the winner.
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Phew, that was lucky !!! Just came on the forum and nearly tripped over a load of toys being thrown out of a pram, there Could have been nasty
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He just disappeared. I suspect Lou Casazza and Dutch Mueller had something to do with it
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Well-organized A.C.U.-sanctioned team racing greeted Jack and Cordy upon their arrival in Great Britain after a six-week sea voyage. Eight teams, enthusiasticaly cheered on by “supporters’ clubs” from the towns they represented (Wembley, West Ham, Wimbledon, New Cross, Hackney Wick, Manchester, Bristol and South-hampton) vied for national honors. Riders received team assignments from the governing body itself, and rider swapping or purchasing was allowed, much like present-day ball club bargaining. American competitors, however, were exempt from purchase and could only change teams at season’s end. Jack was assigned to the New Cross team, while Cordy joined forces with the Hackney Wick riders. As Jack says, “If you waited for good weather in England, you’d NEVER race.” Riding styles of the ’30’s and ’40’s were, as in present-day racing, varied. But few spectators at current closed-course meets are aware of the fact that Jack Milne pioneered the now-accepted cornering technique of placing the left foot firmly forward upon entering each turn. Until Milne proved the advantages of this method, both in slowing a brakeless machine and “squaring the corners,” most riders depended primarily upon balance (as did Lammy), or relied upon the spectacular but now-obsolete practice of “drag-legging” a leatherpadded knee, as did “Sprouts” Elder. https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1962/04/01/night-speedway-racing and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1962/03/01/night-speedway-racing
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Oh I was into researching family history before the internet came along. And that sort of thing always seems to be very important to a lot of Americans
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Also a coincidence that he rode for Wimbledon. The club based not far away from one of the main Hugenot areas of the UK in Wandsworth. Passed the old cemetery just a few months back Seems Wilbur was also involved in auto racing in Southern California
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Quite interesting that as i said on anther thread 'Lammy' was in the US known as 'The Frenchman' or 'Flying Frenchman' etc But looking at the internet his family were Americans going back a number of generations. Even Josiah's father doesn't particularly sound French.....Joshua !! Found further back to the French ancestor Andre Lamoreaux 3rd November 1663 in Cozes, Saintonge, France. Andre was a Hugenot André Lamoureaux was a shipmaster and pilot of the small port of Méché (now Meschers-sur-Gironde) in the province of Saintonge (now Charente-Maritime) France, near the mouth of Gironde river and between La Rochelle and Bordeaux. Accompanied by his wife Suzanne LaTour and two children, Elizabeth and Jacques, he made his way to the port of Bristol, England where the sturdy shipmasters of the western coast of France had established a thriving trade. Bristol, England The records of the little French church which the fugitives promptly organized in Bristol show that the colony maintained itself there for many years. Unlike the larger and better known colony in London, it did not attract to itself the refugees of gentle birth and position, but rather those whose commercial and seafaring occupations had made them acquainted with this part of England. Among these it is permissible to presume that André Lamoureaux was a man of exceptional strength of character and influence. The fact that he was a pilot on the dangerous coast of western France is evidence of the first and the frequent appearance of his name in the records of other members of the colony warrants the second conclusion. The last record of André Lamoureaux in the French church of Bristol was dated March 25, 1695, when he signed as a witness to the marriage of two friends, Gedoq-Roy. Naturalization Application and Emigration Apparently in anticipation of his emigration to America, André Lamoureaux took out denization, or naturalization, papers 22 June 1694, for himself, wife, and two children, Elizabeth and Judith. This was by a special act of Parliament, no general act then being in force. From this it will be seen that André arrived in New York early in the year 1700, or in the preceding year. Jan 7, 1694, christened a son Daniel, born Dec 24, 1693, and who appears to have died soon after. Dec 1, 1695, they christened son Daniel, born Nov 29, 1695, who is the ancestor of the many hundred of the name now scattered over the United States and Canada. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lamoreaux-49 Well worth a look. Particularly at The Pirate Letter'.. Daniel Lamoreaux snr was born 29th November 1695 in Bristol, Somerset, England!!! Jean Lamoreaux born on 31 December 1723 in New York City Thomas Lamoreaux was born on 1746 in New Cornwall, Orange County, NY ( Thomas served in the Revolutionary War. He was a Revolutionary soldier, and who during part of the war was a prisoner on one of the Long Island prison ships. He was a Revolutionary War Ensign, serving under Captain Francis Smith and Colonel Woodhull in New York. He also signed articles of Association in Orange County, New York (patriotic service). On 07/30/2018, the National Daughters of the American Revolution placed a marker to honor Thomas Lamoreaux (Lamoreaux) on Tilling Point Farm, Jackson Township, PA. Luzerne County. The marker reads: Revolutionary war soldier & patriot Thomas Lamoreux (Lamoreaux) Ensign, Orange County Militia, NY. Signed Articles of Association. Born Circa 1745 - Died 5 October 1829. Marker Placed by Wyoming Chapter, NSDAR 2017.) Joshua Lamoreaux was born on August 30th 1793 in Chase, Luzerne, Pennsylvania When Josiah Cease Lamoreaux was born on 29 March 1818, in Lehman Township, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States, his father, Joshua B. Lamoreaux, was 24 and his mother, Martha Ives, was 20. He married Ellen Major about 1838. They were the parents of at least 7 sons and 2 daughters. He lived in Lehman, Lehman Township, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States in 1860. He died on 17 May 1896, in Clinton, Illinois, United States, at the age of 78, and was buried in Woodlawn Cemetery, Clinton, DeWitt, Illinois, United States. When Thomas Jefferson Lamoreaux was born on 15 February 1858, in Lehman Township, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States, his father, Josiah Cease Lamoreaux, was 39 and his mother, Ellen Major, was 41. He married Anna Bell Horton on 10 February 1892, in Knox, Illinois, United States. They were the parents of at least 3 sons. He lived in Lehman, Lehman Township, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States in 1860. He died on 18 April 1918, in Ellison Township, Warren, Illinois, United States, at the age of 60. And on 21st May 1937 Lammy was riding for Wimbledon in Bristol. So completing the circle back to his ancestor of over 200 years before. I wonder if he knew ?
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Remember my grandad talking about Lammy getting fenced by a couple of West Ham riders. And from memory it was Wilkinson and Atkinson
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And that brings us back to a number of threads about 'First ever race'
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Yes, but they were always heading for trouble if a London club entered. Which Hackney eventually did, and they still kept the name, which made it even stranger.
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Nothing really, but i was just wondering if there was an explanation as to why they named the league Provincial ? Having no affinity to the league, it just strikes me as a very strange name to give it