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Put it on here before that imo Harris only got in by bending or breaking the rules.That is in the past now and he is there.Saw a number of comments on Facebook(mainly from Denmark)along similar lines of "get him out" or "he has got to go..".No big fan,but after just one meeting i think all the talk is a little bit premature.Have to hope he somehow gets things together and puts up a decent show.We have no-one else at the mo.

The comment wasn't made by one of your aliases was it?Talking to yourself again I have seen a few conversations on Facebook about you and they were unfavourable.So it all evens itself up in the end

Do give up.He mentioned 398cc and 598cc or something around there.In between those two comes 498cc or 500cc.Is that any easier for you.Shall i give you a shovel as i am sure yours is well used by now As for any further debate with you.....i refer you to the previous post.Put up or shut up

My point on which i have subsequently had a few decent contributions from the likes of "Vince" was i am more of the opinion that ability rather than age should be the vital factor.So Germany,GB and Australia all have differeing age restrictions and as was pointed out even the speedway age limit doesn't coincide with the limit set by law,whether that be 18,19,20 or 21 doesn't matter.It isn't the same as on a speedway track But as i concede to Vinces point,how other older riders react to youngsters is also an important factor.But that is the case whether they be 14,15,16 etc or as i pointed out female.Like i pointed out i did actually see Lambert ride against older guys without problem. So again you come out and shoot yourself in the foot.Must have quite a few holes in them by now

Honestly,you just make pointless contributions........ok so you are retired and have time on your hands but you must be able to make decent comments on some threads surely? I put a post on here that was on the topic and i thought might interest people.Obviously as the topic is of no interest to you,you just came here because you saw i had posted something and well....... Why not start a thread on the years gone by section on all your tales from the old days.Sure it would interest a lot of people,but posting stuff from decades ago on any old topic is going to get you flak from those that want to read about the topic and will get missed by those that might be interested in your memories

Go find me the evidence or give an apology and then you can make demands.Until that time you will be labelled a "liar"

The evidence would suggest otherwise.I post an on topic post about speedway in a country that "never particularly interested"you and not long after you are on the thread posting your usual nonsense.Nice work Gustix

No i made a mistake it wasn't you it was SCB that stated it.Doesn't change the fact that if he is right then the law states you have to be 21 to ride a 500cc. As for the rest,well i pulled you up about a comment you atributed to me.Unlike myself or like i said before credit to BWitcher he also admitted he was wrong,you never came up with the evidence or an apology.Say's all i need to know about you as i guess neither the evidence or a retraction/apology will be forthcoming

Thanks for the clarification Got any more stories about Germany that might be of some interest? Maybe from the last few years if possible

Hope you knew if they were injured or not before booking them for meetings

Obviously it doesn't as YOU pointed out that normally you have to be 21 to ride a 500cc

Might be some hope for us in Germany.After his win in NZ Smolinski wants to sit down and discuss things with Paul Bellamy.He has arranged a meeting before the next GP.Seems BSI want to open new talks with Sport 1.But Smolinski say's "there are more channels than Sport !" and has a plan.......Looks like Sport ! have little money or air time on saturdays after buying up the rights to a few football leagues. http://www.speedweek.com/speedwaygp/news/54428/Speedway-GP-im-TV-Was-Martin-Smolinski-unternimmt.html

Maybe you are asking the wrong person this question as i wasn't the one who brought strength up.I just suggested a competence test,something which it seems they have in the Netherlands we have been told.For me like i said if they can ride a number of heats at a given speed and what i think should also be compulsory is to be able to lay the bike down at a given signal.There is nothing to suggest someone suddenly gets stronger on their 15 birthday This is also the great Jack Parker who told his brother whilst the young Ronnie Moore was sitting next to them to "tell your boy if he doesn't back off then i am going to kill him"!!!! And that is where i do tend to agree with the very good point Vince bought up.It is a lot about the attitude of the other riders.How do they cope with a "young upstart" who comes on the scene and beats them.Jack Parker and a few of the other stars of the day didn't take too kind to the teenager Ronnie Moore showing them the way home.It seemed some riders in modern times didn't take too kindly to the female from Denmark Sabrina Bogh beating them.I was told there was little or no problem from local riders,who were used to women racing,but when she moved onto the international scene then rider from eastern Europe didn't like getting beaten by a woman and went out to get her.Maybe the more relaxed atmosphere in germany is better suited to a 14 year old staring out. I'd guess i am one of very few on this thread,on this forum that has witnessed 14 years olds racing speedway.I am one of a few that witnessed Robert Lambert as a 14 year old riding against guys 4,5 or 6 years older than him and he made minced meat of them.But i guess you just have to wonder about the incident last night and if a rider had have kicked Lambert when he was on the track that could well have caused a major incident.You can't compare speedway with driving on the roads,because if that incident last night had happened on a street then someone might....should have ended up in prison.In speedway or in many other sports the law of the land doesn't apply.But imo the people who should not be on the track are those who "fence" or attack a fellow rider and not someone with a special talent

Yes,but we have also had similar cases with women put in the fence.And are girls of 15 as strong as boys?Is there a different rule for girls + boys?I do remember a few young girls riding as well,although a couple of sisters have just last season moved up to 500cc and only wanted to do demo/training rides.But from talking to them it did seem as if that was their own choice..

Yup.That is what i have also stated.Just imo because of the small numbers i think it could be a flexible rule based on ability rather than one that states wednesday you can't ride,but thursday because you have a birthday you can......

Or the Germans.......in all my time here i have never seen or heard of such an incident tbh.The one incident that comes to mind with a "junior" rider was the unfortunate accident involving Sönke Petersen who rode for a number of years on 500cc from the age of 14 until the sad day when he was about 20 years old he came off his bike and went feet first into a fence,.Sadly a rider can have a bad accident on any bike and at any age

It isn't easy,but i do think in the case of speedway where we are dealing with such small numbers there could be a deal of flexibility.These things are all different in the speedway world as well as in real world.SCB states that even at the age of 19 you can't ride a 500cc on the road,but could be speedway world champion.But i do understand that you make an exception and where do you draw the line.My personal opinion is if a rider can do 4 laps of a track on a 500cc in a NL standard time on any given track then he should be ready.If someone can't then they ain't

Just going by Addios statement that you can't hold a driving licence under the age of 16.You have proved him and me wrong :t:But like i said a competence test for the 20 or 30 youngsters who might want to race a 500cc is a hell of a lot less complicated than the 100s of thousands who might want to do so on the road That could be said of you and about 20 or 50 threads Pot,kettle + black anyone?

Is he allowed to drive around on the roads in a small car then until he is 16,but not a proper one ?Think there is a big difference with your example.He is allowed to ride motorbikes in races.He is even allowed to ride a 500cc motorbike around the track,just not when anyone else in out on the track at the same time.Not sure anyone under the age of 16 is allowed to drive a car around just so long as the streets are empty!!! Given the amount of youngsters who ride speedway under the age of 15 i think it would be fairly easy to have a competence test for anyone who wanted to ride.Not quite so easy to do the same for all those 100,000s of kids who might want to drive a car.Not the same at all

Think Shovlar has taken a dislike to Smoli right from the day when he signed for Coventry he called them the Man Utd of speedway........sadly it looks like he might be right

So far i have only seen the final on youtube and a page of the GP website.What strikes me straight away is that only 1 rider in the photos before the final has his GP number on show!!!! This was something the riders wanted and it seems those photos were taken recently and only 1 has gone to the trouble of showing off his number.And on the GP site it is all a bit stilted when they talk about Smolis win and then go on to say something like "Let's see what #84 has to say..."Ok it is early days,but the riders have had enough time to sort this out if they really wanted it introduced.But does yet again show that Smoli whilst maybe not having the talent or the backing of some of the other riders,does go about things in a professional way Crump was a funny commentator.....saying "the inside line wasn't working for Smolinski"....then afterwards just laughing like a kid.......The other bloke sounded quite good though.typical Aussie!!!

I understand the point you was making.I was answering another post!!!

The reports during the week might have been telling.That the crews of other riders were acting unprofessionally like drunken louts at the airport and on the plane.The two that were said be be professional and keeping their distance were the Smolinski + Pedersen teams Well done Smoli

No your counter-argument was shown to be nonsense.Your argument was that the British + Aussie system was the same.my argument was the british system didn't seem to be working but the different systems of other countries did......get it Give you credit for admitting you were wrong.But then your argument falls apart on that fact

That is only in team events.He can on a German licence ride in individual events like the world U21s or later GPs.Laguta rode on a Latvian licence in the Gps as he had problems with the Russian federation and was trying to change citizenship.Just hope he doesn't turn his back on GB Not surprised.Best leave it at that