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But if Bellamy states he thinks the SEC should be a junior event what conclusions are to be made from that?What he isn't saying is riders should be banned.What he is saying is some riders shouldn't be allowed to enter.Same thing in the end,just he is trying to be cleverer than the FIM

I certainly do acknowledge the fact.Just like i do acknowledge the fact that they did bring the series on to a new level.But even one of the major sponsors has stated here that he thinks the whole thing went a bit stale a few years back and it is a fact that we are now at the point where the latest GP was held in one of, if not the major speedway country before a paltry crowd.The ticket sales were poor before the weather was known. Houston,we have a problem!!!!

But nothing much was said at the time the deal was made and nothing was done at the time.Just after the SEC took off and got on Eurosport and looked like a bit of a challenge to the SGP.....only then was a fuss made.And why?It does seem that Armando has confirmed some peoples suspicions that it was because of BSI Now i am not one of those that want to see BSI or the SGP suffer as like i said on one of the previous threads it is in the end speedway that suffers.

You yourself have stated that BSI ask what they think the market can afford.There is no set price for all countries.They don't ask the same money from Italy that they do from Sweden and Poland,so why do they expect different from the FIM?

But they are the deals agreed at the time.When the deal was done for the SEC the FIM would have been happy to get almost anything for the competition.The fact that it has been boosted beyond most peoples imagination shozuldn't be held against One Sport.Or do you and BSI think because it has been turned into a bit of a success the FIM should turn around and say "Ok you have done a good job now we want to go back on the deal and get 10 times the money agreed"? It all comes down to the fact an outside party has come into speedway,taken a low key competition and turned it around.BSI were happy to do their deal and the FIM were probably laughing all the way to the bank when One Sport wanted the SEC...... What is very worrying is that BSI seem to have milked the market and we are now at the stage when our major competition is being held in one of the major countries before a crowd below that of a lot of league meetings and like i said before a 1,000 people less than a relatively low key open meeting in germany the week before!!!!Blaming Basketball or the Pope isn't going to help much.Just as almost every time i see a rider comment about a poor performance he never blames himself it is almost always his set up or mechanical problems........

I think it always will Phil,which is why i really don't understand all the fuss.It has been given a big boost and in doing that has helped boost speedway a little bit.But it doesn't have the title of world champ and so will never have that status and so shouldn't have to pay the same as the top competition.Really the only way the fuss can be understood is that BSI are peeved

I thought Bellamy said in a recent interview he thought the SEC should be a junior event.Imo that means he wants it downgraded or how do you see that?It doesn't seem to me that he agrees with the statement you put on here that "the more successful EVERY speedway meeting is...." .

What i have been saying on here about the trouble with the SEC.......and not a view seemingly held by either the FIm or BSI who want to try and downgrade the SEC to the more or less, non event it was before One Sport came on the scene

Pretty good from NKI to say that.Nothing really new from a fans view,but good to have top riders come out and tell it like they see it.Is a pity Coventry seems to have gone to the dogs.What i find quite important it the part about not blaming silencers......

Güstrow got 4,000 on saturday and Timo Lahti,Kai Huckenbeck and Nicolai Klindt were among the top liners Heard tickets are going pretty well for the SEC meeting there as well

The competition is a joke if you want to look at it like that.Let's be fair,some people are just looking to find fault.It is a series,which i am not sure has ever been done before.But in many if not most competitions with qualis and then finals you will get different riders in team or pairs events.I agree it would be better to have the same riders in all meetings,but also can see why riders might be selected for different tracks etc In the end it is a hopefully good speedway meeting with a meaningless title if you want to see it like that.The main thing is the riders get decent competition and money,the fans get value for money and the promoters are happy .Anything else is just moaning.......I'd guess Landshut and the fans who go are ok with the Polish line-up

Ok,i must have read that wrong....the possible suggestion that Kevin was doing what Gjedde done at Berwick.I guessed Gjedde deliberately lowered his average.

Surely if what he said that his engine went "pow",then that would explain it?He said his second bike lacked compression.Like i said,he was skint and someone came in to save his career.But to what extent has the financial support helped?Maybe he doesn't have the finances to really get two or three bikes up to the standard he would like.Then i can only see more problems ahead as he struggles for points or money.I certainly don't think there is anything deliberate in this.But maybe his head isn't right as well.He needs a few good meetings one after the other and maybe will turn the corner.I hope so as he is much better than these performances this year

Yes there was an internet fan campaign to raise money for him and from hearing(only part) of his interview yesterday it seemed someone stepped in with financial help to save his career.

Really don't think it is anything like that.He was very very close to packing it all in over the winter.His confidence must be pretty low and he,from what i have read done an engine today and his second bike was poor.No real excuses though for that i guess as if you turn up with bikes they should be top notch.But such is life.Sometimes they ain't He didn't impress yesterday on what is pretty much his german home track,so it isn't imo anything to do with average fiddling etc

Wasn't Henny Kroeze of all riders, the first to do a 21pt max?

Think they do.Don't think the riders have much choice.I remember in Germany's case,that Kevin Wölbert was a bit fed up always seeming to get long trips whereas other riders always seemed to get "home" meetings and then stated he wouldn't do any more meetings

Brokstedt were formed in 1983.A year later Matthias Kröger joined and has been with the team ever since and is due to line up this season yet again.Think Conny Samuelsson is the rider generally quoted as being the longest serving rider for one club.Has kröger beaten the record or how many seasons does he have to go?

Yes,i was thinking of an official meeting and proper teams,rather than an open meeting with a made up name.But interesting none the less

Very tempting....

4 members of the Rempala family lined up for the same team yesterday in Poland.3 brothers and a son/nephew.As the title say's,now that must be a record Unless someone know different of course.

Ok.No pressure then..... Haven't seen so much "twist" since Chubby Checker was at his peak Is it my turn or yours to buy the drinks?

And that is what he will carry on doing in 2015 then?Stick with what others have done.....If it is a mess then Castagna has to sort it out.He is under pressure to do that.If it isn't a mess and all is ok,then sure he is under no pressure and it is "carry on as before".You decide which

Not sure Ghostie has put a "twist" on it.In all honesty how else can you read it?Castagna say's BSI have told him they don't think the FIM are honouring their deal!!! Do you think they sat down and had a laugh over a glass of whiskey about the FIM not honouring the deal?I know the word is your translation,but "clamped" isn't that another word for "pressure"?

Don't need to read it to state "It sounds like a good magazine".Ghostwalker is Swedish,so should be able to read the mag.He isn't one to come out with rubbish as far as my forum experience of him has shown,so what he say's makes the mag "sound good".An interview with Castagna is something needed at this moment in time and why should i disbelieve what Ghostwalker say's is stated as saying in the mag? In fact if i didn't believe it someone would jump on me and say "well it is what is quoted in the mag" It is out in the newsagents.It is hardly that someone can come out with something that isn't there and no-one will ever find out he was lying......The fact that at some stage castagna might feel some heat from such a statement and then say it isn't what he said or he was mis-quoted,wouldn't be strange either.It happens almost everyday in politics and the person never backs down until a tape of the conversation is found etc. If we go that route then we can never believe anything we read unless we have absolute 100% proof to back it up.Close the forum down now,especially the general discussions section!!!!!