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Will be a few test meetings at the weekend as well between Sweden and Denmark 24.07 U21 Gislaved (18.00) 1. Jonas Jensen 2. Sam Jensen 3. Anders Thomsen 4. Andreas Lyager 5. Mikkel Brøndum Andersen 6. Emil Engstrøm 25.07 U19 Västervik (11.00) 1. Martin Steen Hansen 2. Emil Engstrøm 3. Frederik Jakobsen 4. Sam Jensen 5. Patrick Hansen 6. Andreas Lyager U21 Västervik (14.00) 1. Jonas Jensen 2. Frederik Jakobsen 3. Anders Thomsen 4. Martin Steen Hansen 5. Mikkel Brøndum Andersen 6. Patrick Hansen No idea who will be in the Swedish sides though

Just out of interest,what is the percentage of meetings since Kent opened, that have not been completed due to the curfew?

Not sure as I haven't heard of him,but maybe his name was mis-spelt and is Freudenthaler???? Have seen a few with this surname coming up linked with St.Johann speedway in Austria

I remember riders couldn't make meetings too far away as they had too much work to do on the farm..........

Love it when this happens Think you should try reading the thread before going off on one,although you are in good company.Not sure how many times it has been stated that it is in America where the flag has its controversial meaning.In the UK it isn't really an emblem of controversy,but it is also not an emblem that has any real local meaning either

Sounds a rather stupid idea.Who will be fooled by averages when,once you attend a meeting and see the riders who are averaging 7 or 8 are way way behind the top riders........You kick out the slightly better guys and you just widen the gap between top and bottom,and believe me I have seen this happen in Denmark and Germany and it doesn't make for interesting racing.And at least for me,i am more interested in the racing than the averages

Great help that

For once John I am in total agreement with you.Seems a pity that you get offered something a bit different from the normal teams/riders you can see every week and it doesn't attract a bigger crowd.Ok at King's Lynn it was said there was little or no promotion of the young Danes.......

Midget car racing in 1948 doesn't really help me with my question about speedway in the 70s though,does it?

There was another rumour of speedway starting at Charlton in the 70s.Was this attempt at the Valley?

For me, the PL went downhill when Mason Wear stopped sponsoring riders

See there you go again.You admit you were ignorant of the facts and then get all narky at the suggestion of education.I am always willing to learn and I hope that will never end.I don't know why you need to feel the need to suggest educated sensitive and sensible people want to cause offence.Like I said,if you are ignorant of the facts how can you form an educated opinion?Like you say,you don't really want to

Think the U21 meeting was earlier and it is a pairs meeting on now Have seen some results from the individual meeting,so know that is finished.Both at the same stadium in one day

People can't make a reasonable decision if they are ignorant of the facts or they don't want to know the facts.In essence there is nothing wrong with german flags from the Kaisers period,but they have also been hijacked by racists and so people associate them with racists and in the end just the red,white black colours get associated with racists because they often wear clothes with those colours to identify themselves.We have even had problems here with some clothing company from Norway because it is associated with neo-nazis......

No you obviously didn't understand.I mentioned education or educating people to understand the full implications of the flag and how it offends a large number of people.Rather like other examples I have mentioned in this topic.You came back with some rubbish about why should people be told to be offended!!!! You obviously didn't understand,becuse no-one has said anyone should be told to be offended,but it seems reasonable that they should know that others are and is it really a symbol worth using.........Lack of understanding on your part without doubt or you are just trying to argue for the sake of it despite understanding. And there was an article on the Beeb about the use of the flag in other countries and of course there was no mention of it in Somerset !!!!

Another opinion on the race from Germany.In fact it is from one of our old members "german speedway fan" Who states the ref was the only one in the stadium to think Gollob should be excluded. "gsf"'s version is Gollob moved slightly to the right and clashed with Nicki who was moving inside into Gollob.......Having watched the race on youtube I can't agree that Nicki moved inwards at all,so maybe it was just the guys opinion from watching in the stadium and he hasn't had the chance to see any replays? http://www.speedweek.com/speedwayem/news/78358/SEC-Landshut-Sayfutdinov-siegt-Smoli-steigert-sich.html

Having helped flattrack get off the ground,maybe that community could help out speedway?Have they managed to get any tracks of their own yet that a speedway team could use?

Leave gustix and his tinkles out of this.Anyway he has those rubber pants now,so can tinkle away in safety

Then you gave the wrong impression with your previous comment,which was misleading.I therefore offer a full apology See it can be done

I was being sarcastic you old fool.On this project, day 1 was when Marcel sat at his desk with a blank piece of paper and wondered what does the speedway world need,a brilliant new engine that needs less servicing.....it wasn't when he came to King's Lynn with a finished engine that had already been tested by some fairly unknown grasstrack guy called Schramm..........

Ok,so you are saying day 1 was when he turned up with a finished engine to race.I was thinking you meant like day 1 when the project got going.......my bad

Well i'd say King's Lynn was a hell of a long time after day one............

At a guess when Phil say's he has been close to this project I doubt if he has had much contact with Gerhard himself.More that he has heard things on the grapevine

Yes it is one of them.It is offensive,i guess because of what it represents,just like the Confederate flag and indeed just like the Japanese rising sun flag is controversial to some nations because of what it represents.Practically all the old red,white and black flags tend to be offensive in Germany because they are the colours that neo-nazis wear. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Japan

Jason is the youngest at 17 and just starting out on 500cc this season,i think.From memory might have been European 80cc champ.Mark Frimodt Pedersen is a close friend of Jasons and sort of gave up the sport after his 80cc career,but then had a change of mind.Patrick Bjerregaard is the oldest at 23 and raced mostly for Holsted.Peter Karger I am not sure ever rode 80cc,at least I never saw him,he just seemed to turn up on 500cc.Like I say,Simons father is a member here and can give detailed career stats,but started out on 80cc for Slangerup and now rides for Holsted,I think in div 1 as Slangerup had no div1 team.Jason looks to be the star of the future out of this group Doesn't work Bryn Finally found it and one correction I would make is that the youngsters in Denmark generally start out even earlier than 80cc as they have many 50cc leagues and about 150 riders at that level!!!!! Saw Emil Engström win an international meeting a few weeks back that included Rye House new signing Danny Maaßen(on his home track) and Peter Karger(who was disappointing) http://www.mscnordhastedt.com/Rennen-am-14-.-Mai.htm