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It used to be mental back in the 60s at big individual meetings like the Internationale when all the riders were wearing black leathers and had the same world symbol race jacket on and all had chromed bikes that looked the same.Couldn't tell who was who and that is why people stopped going I think.

One of the latest and so doesn't appear on the other threads must be Jacek + Oskar Aijtner-Gollob,who rode together a few weeks back for Bydgoszcz v Wanda Krakow.Might be mistaken,but think Jacek came out of retirement for this

That line-up looks as good as their track atm On the other hand it can only pull a surprise as everyone will be expecting them to come last...... positive note is they at least have 3 English riders

Elit Vetlanda named Tai Woffinden Bartosz Zmarzlik Tomas H.Jonasson Artiom Laguta Janusz Kolodziej At least the Danes have 4 Danish riders in their team

Well why not?Families that missed a generation out...... Toni + Kacper Woryna Bob + Bradley Andrews

Just reading one of the other threads what about Len and Andrew Silver? Or Peter and Nicki Glanz or Colin and Lee Richardson.Sure there are more

One main criteria of course is a track actually has to want to host a prestigious meeting.A lot just don't want to even if they meet other criteria

Know it is early days yet(just the start of April)but maybe this isn't going to be such a bad prediction for a thread after all looking at how many meetings are getting called off........

Here is the original thread which I linked to in the previous thread.Might help with ideas http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=71356&hl=father

Now it is just down to Esbjerg to change or I guess put some new date on the existing posters they have around town and do a new ad for the radio etc,but they seem to be seeing the funny side of things..........

Other news http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/motorsport/speedway/nervekrig-truer-dansk-speedway/6024898

First thing and I can't believe that people watching calmly on a video can't even see that Dudek didn't stop!!! Find it hard to believe that a few people have stated Dudek stopped when he didn't Secondly maybe the ref thought that as the two riders immediately behind Dudek avoided him then Kildemand should have as well seeing as he was even further behind.Might have been a factor in his thinking.And let's face it he was watching under stress and imo called it correctly and people here are sitting at home drinking a cuppa and still think Dudek stopped!!!!

Sure would be.Haven't checked just who would be in this meeting if all those who signed boycott,but it would hardly be a world class line-up and Esbjerg have sold tickets for this already....... Off topic,but I see Svemo have nominated that Finnish bloke with the long name

From memory this is what has happened in the past under Secher and possibly under Stekkers as well.So you can understand riders thinking this is what would happen again.As for Secher,well I am sure he feels his authority has been undermined and he probably gave his word to riders the usual practice would continue and that is maybe why only 2 riders applied for the wc.

For sure he should put his hand up to warn following riders,but he can then see if he can get the bike going again and continue with the race.At the point PK hits him he is still in the race.He would only be out of it at the point when he leaves the track or gets lapped if he decides to poodle round and try to get going.Of course if he thinks he can push the bike to gain a point he can also do that

Thought I already made it clear we are talking about this incident.You want to talk about theoretical or past incidents then talk about them on those threads.At no time does Dudek lose control or make a mistake as in other incidents that are different to this one.simple

Like I said,at no time is Dudek not in the race and a rider behind just can't slam into someone who is in a race.Kildemand can't really be faulted,but you can't say "i didn't see him" as a get out.Now if Dudek had changed his path then imo I am sure the ref would have made a different decision

No point talking about "any incident",we are talking about this incident,and I agree with the ref.He got it right.Dudek doesn't stop as you said

Trouble is,and a few people just don't see it,but Dudek at no time stops......he is still moving when Kildemand hits him.As he is still moving he must technically still be in the race.And you just can't plough into a rider in a race and not be at fault for the stoppage.Now if Dudek had tried to move over to get off the track and a following rider hits him,he could then be said to be at fault,but he doesn't,he just carries on riding albeit slowing down.He is still technically in the race and could get going again and carry on,as I am sure we have seen numerous times.Like Star Lady say's Kildemand morally isn't at fault,but technically is

Finished 5 minutes ago.Sorry Looks like you can watch it though.I won't tell you the score https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcM-KotZeZU

There is live coverage of Grudziadz v Zielona Gora on now.....

It is irrelevant what your opinion is,the ref shared my view

http://www.fyens.dk/modules/mobile/article?articleid=2971812 Because Liglad gets a wild card through as he would rather ride in Poland.Seems Sechers decision not to give him one was overturned.Now Secher has resigned and the riders are up in arms.....

Think there are 1 or 2 threads with a long long list including Zabik father + son,Tomicek father and son,Dryml father and son,Muller father and son,Taylor Glynn and Chum etc Here is one and even on this someone say's "here we go again...." http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=71356&hl=father Another one http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=58949&hl=%2Bkarol+%2Bzabik&do=findComment&comment=1824542

Of course it does.I left out a "not" .... things are not ok.But things being not ok doesn't mean he is out of the race or has an e.f.like I said surely we have all seen a rider have problems and then get going again.To be out o the race i.e an ef or ret you have to be at a standstill,left the track received help from someone or be lapped and he was none of those,so the ref got it right as another rider can't just ride into someone who is still in the race