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Good post One thing i would say is for sure we all went to tracks in fields(i remember Mildenhall in the early 80s for instance,was quite a shock to someone used to Plough Lane,White City,Wembley,Hackney etc)and i guess a lot of us went to the old football grounds where people just urinated against the wall as the queues to get into the inadequate toilet 'facilities' were horrendous and the pushing and shoving on the terraces was just accepted even to the extent you were carried alongby the crowd and your feet wouldn't be touching the ground.But that was then and we generally just don't accept facilities tha were ok in the 40s and 50s and outdated and dangerous by the 70s and 80s.It is bad enough for a league meeting etc,but i think fans expect a higher quality for a GP venue Having said that i go back to my previous comment that i hope a 3 year contract might be the boost teterow need to make some major improvements

Sometime in the 60s,Plough Lane.No idea who was riding.Sad really,but that is it

I don't think your statement is true.In fact i know it isn't.I never called it a mickey mouse competition.The one i called mickey mouse was the Champions League thngmy..........when is that going to be held by the way?

Nobby wasn't named Smith though,was he?

Just passing on a thought.Something that happened to me a decade ago and seems is still happening now.You would have thought the promoter had enough experience especially as the Grass track meeting attracts around 20,000 i think and used to attract around 100,000 over the 2 days.But have to hold my hand up to not having mentioned my lack of orientation around the Teterow country lanes to anyone at the track.In fact i had forgotten about it until i read the comments on FB today,looking for anything about rowdy fans..... Probably robbed me of the chance to see Kelvin and Banks on the famous grass track what with the extra 30 minutes to get to the car park and then the 20 minutes or so to get from there to the track

Thought money not only talks,but in Poland it shouts? Obviously not for everyone

If you are in contact with people who make the decisions,you might want to mention the poor signs to the stadium/car park(s) Phil.I have seen comments on the net about it and know from personal experience.that they are not the best.The time i went to the Grass track and then the speedway afterwards i came to the town and there were signs in 2 different directions to car park #1+2.Never having been before i think i chose #1 as you do and ended up on a tour around the countryside that must have lasted another 30 minutes or so.Obviously the wrong choice and that was my fault.But when i left early i found there were no signs showing me my way back!!!! And i rode around the country lanes in the dark for ages before finally finding the main road. It seems from a few comments that this situation hasn't really improved much,although nowadays people should have a navigation system.....

Think Nicki has backed up my comment about him a few days ago on another thread.Almost like i could see the future

Lol I can remember NZ and how the promoter was almost a god for putting up the cash and then was a pr#t when it was announced he had pulled out

'crusty' Pye and 'Red' Ott

You can watch the meeting again here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5-94CLVOUY

As i said before,Ole and i think possibly Phil backed him up was saying Vojens wasn't really a worthy venue for the GPs.Now it wasn't just the track/stadium, which is much better than Teterow,but also the town,which is pretty poor,but again is much better than Teterow.Now all of a sudden a worse venue and town in ok for the GPs.So i guess it must be down to who will cough up the dosh. Having said that,i have long said that if a GP is held in Germany then Meck-Pomm is the area that should host it.Close to Scandinavia and Poland and has a great number of hard core fans.Teterow also have for more than a decade had big plans for the stdium,that never seemed to get going.Hopefully this contract will help them develope the stadium towards that vision.What i doubt the GPs can do though is help develope the town of Teterow into anything that most fans would want to spend much time in......not a tourist magnet or party town at all

Tbh i haven't heard about this,but the stewards have been a problem for a decade or more.Mostly fans have been upset about being searched and having food and drink taken off them,but general stewarding has been a problem at the track.My own personal view which is a decade oldas the last time i went i somehow by-passed the stewards and drove almost on the track(!!!) before turning back and finding the car park,is that there seemed to be a ddgy political element to the stewards,which is not unknown in this area....

I was lucky enough to go to the one that went ahead.A mate of mine came over from Manchester for the second one.Just happy i didn't bother.But one of the biggest scandals in the sport of recent years.Bad enough that,but to then follow it with a few others was too much and heads at the top should have rolled

Not sure,but typically after 10 years of running the event,last year an Anglo-German woman won and that was the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3LWokp9g3A

Sort of like it was ironic that a week or two after the GPs in Gelsenkirchen,the stadium hosted a stock car event and was sold out year after year

Russell Paine built a track and wanted to get started,but it seemed corrupt local politicians and getting robbed at gun point put him off

Just done a search on this and it was at Valparaiso,Indiana back in 2007 Some Polish expats got together and persuaded the promoter to put on a team meeting between the Hoosier Hot Rockets including Wesley Oskiewicz(resident of Chicago) the son of former Grudziadz rider Wieslaw Oskiewicz against the Chicago Red Scorpions including Artur Taraszka.Now this wasn't a success as i guess the speedway hungry Poles didn't flock to support it.But interesting all the same There was also another Polish born rider living in Chicago,who never really made much of an impact as far as i know,Lukas Michalski

They would surely have got a report or two here for winning a world title.I mean even the polish speedway team got a report http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/sport/dps-na-zuzlu-siodmy-w-historii-triumf-polakow/ It isn't that you are wrong for suggesting it.The problem is you have to market it to at least the Poles.For that you have to really be sure you have at least 1 polish rider fighting for the title.Poles are very patriotic and it wouldn't be much good to have a GP where the top riders are Australian,Swedish or a Brit and the best Pole is 5th or 6th...A lot different to marketing a 2 time world champ or someone who is actually fighting for a world title...You first have to get someone who wants to take the risk anyway There was actually a small polish immigrant run speedway in the mid-west or chicago area.Couldn't have been very successful and possibly died a death as i haven't heard about it for a decade or so.......?

But by the time Adamek fought in Newark he was already a 2 time world champ and having his 37th fight.Hardly an unknown and like you mention Szpilka was fighting for a world title.Not really the unknowns you said in your earlier post Speedway really lacks those ethnic minorities that you mention anyway apart from Poles.No Irish or Italian or German or Latinos in the series to sell tickets

Have you any names of these polish unknowns? and what sort of venue capacity are you talking about?I find it a bit hard t believe that a polish unknown would be topping the bill in the US and is the reason for the venue being sold out.I know Irish are popular and of course some American boxers do try and cash in on their irish heritage.Mickey Ward and Gerry Cooney for instance Would this sell out crowd be a decent one for a GP?

Teterow will sign a contract for GP until 2019

Could you compare him to Gollob? Gollob had a few years in the doldrums(for him at least) when i thought he should really pack it in.He finished 6th,7th,8th and even when he finished 4th he had a couple of really bad GPS and was way off the leaders anyway and with a few youngsters coming on the scene like Emil,i thought there was no way he was going to take a title,but he did at the age of 38-9.Wouldn't put it past Nicki to at least finish on the podium again if he gets some fast bikes

Oh dear,there is no end to the depths this guy will go.Even seems to have searched me out on the net and thinks it will scare me.Say's he won't give me the chance to reply,well what a coward Don't go sending me threatening pm's and think it will stay private.This is a forum and although some posts might be tedious to you myself and Ghostie were only trying to help.And neither i nor you have any evidence that Steve doesn't have better streams than you can find.Brandonbee put a link to a stream which i guess he could see,but when Sommelier and even i looked at it,there was nothing to see.It can and does happen.Stop acting like a big kid

Only managed to see hts 5-12,and like you say better than i expected and better than i have seen before there.Can't really make much of a comment,but looks like with a crowd of around 12,000 it seems a positive start they can build on.Whilst i think Güstrow is far the better place it would be great for German speedway to get two venues up north that regularly host big meetings.Obviously improvments to the infrastructure is a must(if Ole thinks Vojens isn't good enough,then what is teterow?)and to the track are needed Not sure about Smoli hoping for 1 of the wildcards though even if he did make the semis..........but who knows, if the money is there