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Obviously not a close friend.You have spelt his name wrong

In a way i sort of agree,but this is a serious debate on a fairly important topic.Not something that some imbecile should try and spoil by putting the spotlight on himself and the 1950s.We have seen it all umpteen times before anyway.He has his own forums to play silly buggers on if he is bored It was seeing Bahnsport Aktuell in a shop at a train station that rekindled my interest in the sport,so having a decent magazine out there for people to have a glance at is definitely a help in attracting old and new supporters

Surely you have priased him often enough for him to be a sung hero by now? What about Dave Morton.Is he a sung hero or unsung?Mostly in the shadow of his brother.The same could be said of Barney Kennett.Not that he was in Chris Mortons shadow though.Met him in Vojens some years back when Eddie was in the world U21 meeting there.Nice bloke.Barney that is

More on the Nomads of Chiswick here http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=78716&hl=chiswick

Is it being re-run without Greg?

This was meant to be a thread about the current Speedway Star,not another look at me thread,John.Surely you have had enough of them by now?

Flash works the same on the inside of the track and on the outside.Are you also saying no one shoots flash on the insidebecause it is too slow? I personally think drones are a big danger to our society as a whole,not only to motorsports,but governments are being far too slow to clamp down on them and probably it will now be closing the door after the horse has bolted

I know some tourist places,Semper Opera in Dresden is one that springs to mind,ask for 5 euros or something before you are allowed to take photos.

That is obviously why close up,zoom and video are specifically mentioned.The track photographer/track shop want to sell those action and portrait pics.If everyone can do their own close ups(first time i have seen this mentioned)then no-one buys from the track shop.And obviously Sky pay a lot of money to cover meetings and tracks also have their own man their filming meetings to sell the dvd's.... Tbh i don't understand quite why at concert venues they supposedly ban photos,because they aren't selling pics of the band.....But i have been to venues where they have a "no camera" sign,but nowadays people are taking 1,000s of pics inside with their mobiles.Only once at an all seater venue have i seen staff going round and telling people to stop taking photos So i can understand the stance at speedway,though as i say,nowadays it is almost impossible to police unless the stadiums are so empty you can spot people easily,but once drones really take off.........

Surely you are confusing "thread title" with section title?Or which thread are we talking about.....

Yes i have seen some crazy stuff.John Bo from Denmark used to stick his camera on the line and shoot using a remote,which is obviously far safer,but not sure what sort of photos he was getting.Not really sure why the need to get so close. I think Güstrow for instance didn't really want any photographer on the inside.I think more and more will go this way.Like i said earlier,possible use of drones to take pics will be used more and more in the future.They will certainly be an issue with invasion of privacy.Also been a few incidents of drones flying near airports,nuclear reactors etc.They would be pretty difficult to control at speedway meetings in towns and cities where someone could be in a car or house nearby and speedway clubs don't really have the time or mone to try and hunt them person down.It is also impossible nowadays to stop people taking photos with their mobiles.I can understand the issue,but it is almost impossible to control now and only getting harder http://www.drone-air.com/services/sports/ http://www.roboticstomorrow.com/article/2016/03/using-drones-for-aerial-photography/7753/ http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/09/drones_in_sports_they_can_help_coaches_and_athletes_but_also_create_major.html

The problem here doesn't seem to be flash anyway.It isn't mentioned on the website.If flash was a problem,then it wouldn't even be needed at afternoon meetings.The restrictions seem to be in other areas as i pointed out in the previous post.zoom,close up and video I agree with the amount of photographers in the middle providing a problem for the ref. Find it a bit of a joke about going on about FIM press passes and hobby photographers.How did you get started???? Think they should limit FIM passes to the main speedway nations to stop people from countries that hardly host meetings getting them

Quite strange that people are debating flash photography when the notice that started the thread doesn't mention it at all,but clearly mentions zoom,close up and video.......

Can't remember any restrictions being mentioned at GPs or at the FIM meetings at Berlin.Anyway it has all become a bit irrelevant nowadays with the explosion of mobile telephone use and the ever increasing technology of their cameras.Doubt it will be too long before mobiles can take as good a photo as slr's(not the best of course).In fact in some cases with bad light people can take a better snap than i can with my Canon!!! And now with the ever increasing use of drones it will become practically imposible to police people taking photos and video footage.I know Egon Müller uses drones to take video of meetings at the moment.Ok,that is authorised,but there would be nothing stopping someone sitting outside the stadium taking video and streaming it live

Thought the great new idea was the numbers,rather than old style nicknames? So you have,er ......you know #351 and #170 etc.Sadly i haven't kept up with the new trend and don't know who's who now

As i mentioned on the other thread in the GPs,SWC etc most photographers are on the outside of the track with powerful flash and you don't find the riders falling off or getting blinded.More and more tracks seem to be making photographers stay outside.Plus there is a limit anyway on how many photographers are allowed on the inside,so most are outside at meetings here in Germany at least and there are no complaints from riders.At some meetings like the ice speedway there are maybe 20 plus accredited photographers and only 3 or 4 are allowed inside at any one time,which means 16 outside taking flash pics Wasn't there also a big problem a few years back with one club (might have been Peterborough)claiming copyright on any pics? Just have to do a google search on photography at sporting events etc and there are loads of pages explaining things.Also stuff about schools banning parents from taking photos at school sports etc......

Here is a thread on the same subject from a few years ago.Might answer in depth some of the questions http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=69452&hl=photography&do=findComment&comment=2093857

Firstly there were problems(not at speedway i think) with people taking photos of children.Then there was the obvious problems of trying to take photos of women up their skirts or down their tops or whatever.The spectators weren't up to anything,the photographers though,was another story.......

Think a few things have caused this.Firstly the mention of zoom photography,i think became a problem with people supposedly taking improper photos of spectators with zoom lenses.Video has obviously started to be a problem with people streaming the meetings live on the internet

He isn't correct.There are about 4.5 million white people in London,mainly British,Irish and Polish.That is more than any where else in the country i'd imagine and should be enough to support any sport that white people dominate.It is far more "WASP's" as in Poole or Isle of White or Plymouth.The problem has nothing to do with immigrants,it is down to speedway not appealing to the vast majority of those 4.5 million people As it is the Stock Cars don't seem to have much trouble with crowds.I thought they were fine and would continue if they were allowed.So motor sports as such aren't affected by those asians or africans

Surely wiring can be sold as scrap metal?And plastic seating can possibly be sold on.The speedway stadium at Norden is fitted out with the old seats from Werder Bremens stadium.The thing i don't understand though is it has been stated that the seats were broken up.That sounds a bit crazy

If you start off using false information you will end up with a wrong conclusion London "these days" isn't populated by over 50% of citizens who were born in a foreign country.Some parts of London have a population where 50% or more were born in a foreign country.But a large number of these were born in Poland,a big speedway country.Even if we know in real terms not that many Polish peple attend speedway Totally incredible conclusion at the end.Have you never seen stadiums in India or Africa full at sporting events?Are you saying outside of WASP's nobody is interested in sport?

Is it possible Jack Keen can help you?Or maybe Pengepics?

Trying to answer my own question to some extent i have looked at the final green sheets George Piper ended with 3.00,Brendan Johnson 6.21 and James Purchase 3.59.Not overly promising on that front.Also looking through i noticed Sam Woods on a 3.00.Kelsey Dugard 4.28 Zach Wajknecht is up on 8.59 which is promising.Matt Williamson sounds promising with his average,but many seem to have been around for an age and probably won't get much better now.Adam Ellis,Mitchell Davey,Ashley Morris

Some more useful info http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=44132&hl=ridgeon