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You would have thought seeing as the Promoter hinted at saturday meetings that he knows what he is talking about..........guess we have to wait and see

Always possible in these type of thread.If Fardon can be thought of as one of the best ever because of a few years when he was one of the best and the thought of "what might have happened",it is also possible to come to a conclusion that Ronnie was the best ever,it was just his lack of ambition and his leaving the sport that prevented it.That is why it could be concluded that someone like Michael Lee might have been or was the best ever or Tommy Jansson could have won multiple world titles or could we draw a comparison between Farndon and Darcy Ward?Ward was a great talent who also had crowds of fans outside the hospital after his crash.....all opinions,and hard to say any are wrong

Just have to look at England football team and the number of caps won to see stats don't tell the full story Is Peter Shilton really the best player ever for England? Certainly after him i would say Rooney,Beckham ,Gerrard and Ashley Cole are not in the same category as Moore and Charlton

A woman has died in what was a suspected Drone incident.Although the drone wasn't really the cause of death http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/drones-fatal-road-accident-first-non-military-drone-death-accident-car-crash-surveillance-safety-a7180576.html But shows the security problems that could well be caused by their use

Oh dear.Where did it all go wrong?Not only wanting to piss off the Clubs,now you are trying to piss off a whole nation.Great,super Just get a friend to print off the bloody racecards for you,if you can't be bothered

Think it was an attempt at humour.Not a very good one,but it was an attempt.Ok,i know it is cold,the nights are long and the alcohol is expensive,people are going crazy and shooting each other in Finland,but lighten up

So it seems the idea has been confirmed as total wonk. It obviously will take revenue away from clubs and any money saved and spent on beer will go to the stadium owner,not the speedway club.Can we file this away with the concrete starting area idea now?

Or has an individual meeting,or 4tt or any other than the normal format.......

Oh dear.Talks about aggressive posts then is abusive!!!! I did ask about 3 times for you to explain why your suggestion would "piss Clubs off".You never did get round to answering,probably because you knew it would take revenue from them. If you want a racecard in the Star why not print one off,buy the Star and then stick it inside.Job done.No-one pissed off

We were lucky to have a big basket full of talent in the country back then.Lots of riders given a chance in test series.Now we have trouble naming a team for the SWC

Ok,but i asked why you thought "it might" and you still haven't given us the answer as to what made you think that

Look i am not going to keep agruing the toss with you back and forwards as you seem to love,but It might have escaped your notice that the GPs are mainly in foreign countries,so don't affect local Clubs.It might also be the fact that i think the company that does the programmes is also the same one that runs the Star.Even if it isn't it only means 1 GP in the UK and presumably they have no trouble from BSI as they work closely together.I was always under the impression the print was more for stay at home,watch it on tv fans anyway or why produce one for each GP Now you yourself stated clearly it might "piss off Clubs".Now tell us why that might be,please?And is it worth it?

True enough.You are right and Dave wasn't in Chris' shadow.My bad

The point you seem to miss although you yourself stated it is,it might "piss the Clubs off".Now you do that and it is obvious their margins are fairly small if they make a profit at all.But to even attempt to take revenue from a Club and what does the Club do?It bans you from selling the Star at their stadium.Great idea i don't think.Tell you what if the Clubs make so much money from food and drink wouldn't it be a super idea to boost the Stars profit if they also start selling beer,cola and sandwiches at a lower price than they do in the stadium.......

You contradict yourself.You admit doing so would "probably piss the Clubs off" then say i shouldn't make any difference.Why would it "piss the Clubs off"if it isn't for the revenue reason? The fact is if people don't want to spend money on a programme why would they want to spend more on the Star,just for a printed racecard?The fact of the matter is the Star wouldn't exist without speedway and just the idea of them competing for revenue with the clubs is self defeating.

I saw him ride for Hackney of course. You see,the point is Sid i am talking over a whole career and not 1 season Dave rode from 71-86 and Chris from 73 when he made his team debut to 93.Now as early as 1974 Chris was British Junior Champ.In 75 he made his full England debut.and in the tests against Sweden scored 11 at Belle Vue whilst in the same series Dave scored 5 at Hackney.Now Chris was 3 years younger.The next season he made his first world final.During the period they raced at the same time Chris made another 4 world finals,plus he was part of world title winning pairs and teams.Dave wasn't......

Ask our member "gustix".I doubt anyone has more experience than he does at it

The idea that the Speedway Star should take revenue from the clubs is self defeating.If the clubs earn less money the ygo broke and Speedway Stars revenue also declines!!!!! Is that a good strategy?

Doesn't matter.Look back at their careers and Dave was in Chris' shadow.Your previous posts just help make my point.Obviously at first he wasn't.He was older,but overall he was.Dave never made a single world final,doubt he even made any major international final.Chris made plenty The original point i was making was he is an unsung hero.I don't want to put him down,he just wasn't as good as his younger brother.That is a fact

What about Steve Chilman,who was riding at Wimbledon in the 60s and i seem to remember him also in the 70s(maybe making a second half comeback)and eventually had a little bit of glory in 1988 when he won the National Vintage Speedway Championship at Reading,in the post war class

I am just dealing in facts,not fantasy.Even before his accident it looked like Chris was the better prospect.The fact that he made a world final at an early age was showing that.Dave,whilst a very good rider didn't look to be an international class one.The fact is as i stated at the beginning he was in the shadow of his brother.I know a lot of this section deals in fantasy and what might have happened and who would have won world championships if there were GPs in the 50s,60s and 70s,but they are just that,peoples fantasies

Easy to say,look at Poland it is so cheap there compared to us.But then look maybe at the reason why........ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage Then you see in real terms they are pretty much the same prices.If you want to swap British wages for Polish,then you can also pay their prices to get into speedway.Saw a programme last week about a Polish furniture company that get their furniture made in Belarus.Seeing the comparable wages i now understand why.......

Rubbish.Even though Chris was 3 years younger he had already made a world final by 1976 and even in the 1975 British Final he outscored his older brother.

Just trying to point out something Forum regulations. Starting Topics Before you start a thread, check to see if a similar thread has already been started. You do seem to be starting an awful lot of new threads covering things that have already been discussed . Don't want to be upsetting the mods seeing as you already have at least 7 warning points!!!!!

By coincidence i saw this today.A drone that automatically follows someone.Could have one rider with whatever it follows or wonder if it would be possible(eventually surely)to have 4 following the 4 riders. https://www.airdog.com/