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Video of the night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0uW-5PQ3s0&t=216s&app=desktop

Lucky so and so.What a classic race to have seen

Looks quite well to me unless someone is propping him up?

Looks quite alive and well to me!!!!

Would i be right in saying it looks like Cecil Forbes has been left off the list of riders?

Well we have had the first ever meeting and the first ever league meeting you saw,and as i was looking through my old programmes and noticed on the 2nd of August 1973 i saw Trevor Hedge challenge and lose to Halifax's Eric Boocock in the golden helmet match race,i thought wouldn't it be great to have a thread about the first time......not wanting to be elitist it could also be the silver helmet

Martin Elliott kneeling in front of the lady

Wouldn't it be easy if you have asked Geoff Young to use his photo to also ask him who the riders are?

Seeing as you are using Geoff Youngs photo,why not ask him who the riders are?See he has put up over 1,000 photos from yesterday.And also seen a bit of video of the riders going round the track.

I did see Bauers statement yesterday or maybe this morning.Thought it a bit funny mentioning winning a medal for the first time in 8 years with Max.Tbh i thought it was a dig at Pletschacher seeing as he is normally in the team and they have been out of the top 3.As you say,typical Bauer.Was trouble in the camp before Weber came along,so he obviously doesn't get on with a few people,not just the one Had a look and couldn't see anything.Maybe he has deleted the statement?Or maybe he has more than one Facebook profile.Think he had a strange name before,but i am not friends with him or Bauer or anyone in the German team,so missed it......

We know how fast ice speedway bikes/riders are from seeing Cribby come out and smash some of the speedway track records,so St.Pongau in Astrias claim to be the fastest track in the world could well be true,although not sure who set it and what speed was reached http://www.salzburg24.at/eisspeedway-wm-in-st-johann-die-schnellste-bahn-der-welt/3152692 But here is a claim by Stralsund in Germany to being the fastest speedway track in Europe.Though is the Maciej Janowski who set it in 1958 related to the modern Maciej?All a bit questionable i guess what some of these tracks claim and of course very questionable seeing as they are using a guy with a stop watch.... http://www.mcn-stralsund.de/cms/front_content.php?idcat=10&lang=1 Rastede in Germany also makes a claim to being the fastest grass track in the world i think....

Fair enough.Sunderland Saints it is then

Of course as a Wimbledon fan i do think the Dons race jacket is up there with imo Wembley West Ham Belle Vue then i thought the Wolves race jacket around 1974 or 75 with the wolfs head with tongue hanging out was pretty good for a modern re-work and quite liked the Sconthorpe Saints one although it was a bit of a rip-off of Simon Templar's Saint I'd also add Berwick and Workington from the 70s when they used to come to Plough Lane for the Division 2 riders championship etc

Doesn't matter,you said you can't buy the hardware and was proved wrong.Not sure why you keep trying to dig a bigger hole for yourself

Sad to say,but i think you are spot on

1.I just went down to a normal high street shop and bought the player,so i imagine it was legal.It had a waranty and everything.Fact is you said you couldn't get the hardware and have been proven wrong both in the UK,by me and in Sweden by Ghostie 2.I said prosecuted,not caught.Did they ever once send anyone round the streets asking what zone video or dvd you were watching?And was anyone ever prosecuted for watching another zone video?I don't think there was ever any effort to catch,let alone prosecute anyone.Big difference

Obviously not my team,but possibly the worst score i ever saw at a speedway meeting was my visit across the river to see England take on Poland in the first test at Hackney.England gained a 5-1 in every heat apart from the second to last when unfortunately Ray Wilson fell and was escluded.Plech for Poland was also excluded so the heat finished 3-2 to England and Poland managed to avoid an embarassing score line details thanks to Brian Collins internationalspeedway site 1st Test at Hackney 12th July 1974 Ht 1: Wilson, Thomas, Jancarz, Filipiak (f exc) 66.4 5-1 5-1 Ht 2: Louis, Betts, Plach, Glucklich 66.6 5-1 10-2 Ht 3: Jessup, Collins, Mucha, Fabiszewski 67.0 5-1 15-3 Ht 4: Louis, Betts, Jancarz, Waloszek 65.2 5-1 20-4 Ht 5: Collins, Jessup, Plech, Glucklich 68.0 5-1 25-5 Ht 6: Thomas, Wilson, Fabiszewski, Mucha 68.0 5-1 30-6 Ht 7: Jessup, Collins, Jancarz, Waloszek 67.2 5-1 35-7 Ht 8: Thomas, Wilson, Plech, Glucklich 67.0 5-1 40-8 Ht 9: Louis, Betts, Mucha, Fabiszewski 65.8 5-1 45-9 Ht 10: Wilson, Thomas, Jancarz, Waloszek 67.0 5-1 50-10 Ht 11: Louis, Betts, Glucklich, Plech 66.8 5-1 55-11 Ht 12: Collins, Jessup, Fabiszewski, Mucha 67.2 5-1 60-12 Ht 13: Louis, Betts, Jancarz, Waloszek 66.8 5-1 65-13 Ht 14: Jessup, Collins, Glucklich, Plech 67.0 5-1 70-14 Ht 15: Wilson, Thomas, Mucha, Fabiszewski (f exc) 67.2 5-1 75-15 Ht 16: Collins, Jessup, Jancarz, Waloszek 67.0 5-1 80-16 Ht 17: Thomas, Glucklich, Plech (f exc), Wilson (f exc) 67.2 3-2 83-18 Ht 18: Louis, Betts, Mucha, Waloszek 66.8 5-1 88-19

For me it was during a period when i didn't take a lot of interest in the sport.1978-1982,i was busy studying and only went to the NNL final and 1 or 2 other meetings like England v USA and wasn't reading the SS.So i don't know much about what happened.Much like the period after the Dons folded in 1991 until i rediscovered the sport here in Germany.Well my visit to Vojens in 2003.So i never got to see Henka Gustafsson for instance

Quite ironic or should we say a terrible decision,because Belle Vue at the time had a reputation for not wanting to ride in bad conditions.And i am not passing judgement on them,because the way PC rode,i think he needed good conditions,plus any rider really should be the judge of whether they ride or not.It is always hard to make the right decision though,especially if pressure is put on you

I think one year he was very unlucky with an injury when it looked like he might have taken the title.But he did have some very good riders around at the same time

Got to hold my hand up Sid and say i had written Gollob off.How wrong was i?Think i even posted on here that i thought he would retire because the fire seemed to have gone from him and he was a shadow of his old self in the GPs.Then he came out and proved me wrong.Would have been a travesty really if he had ended his career without a title

For me it isn't only close neck and neck racing that makes the sport so good at its best,but moments like an experienced rider(Ronnie Moore) riding to protect his less experienced,slower partner.Magic But it is also like you say a rider doing something no-one or hardly anyone else can manage.For me,the recoveries when it seems all is lost.I can recall a few special moments.One on the ice when in a Russian final,former world champion Dmitri Bulankin looked like he had totally lost control on the rutted bend and was layed flat out,but managed not only to stay on the bike,but to keep it going and somehow get upright again and carry on.I remember Mirko Wolter on a rain soaked Güstrow lose control,but keep going and eventually pass one or two of the riders he had given a head start to.But the most wonderful incident i remember was in a Danish Individual title final heat when Nicki Pedersen lost control on the first bend and was left behind by the other 3.He regained control and over the 4 laps passed one by one all the other,taking i think Hans Andersen on the last lap to take the title But like you say,Gollob was one rider who had so many of those special moments

First meeting or first league meeting? I think Norbolds first meeting was a Britannia Shield meeting http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=78568&hl=cross&do=findComment&comment=2573418 Guessing he was hooked after that,then his first leage meeting might well have been 01.06 v Ipswich

Tried to find those races on youtube,but had no luck.Found lot of Phil Collins with Genesis though....

Talking of 1973,Sid,what about PC v Michanek?Twice i think they had a ding dong battle And where did Gollob find that speed in that heat?And lots of others too.